End of SS involvement - Update
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Well after writing the positive post below- had our CPP conference today and SS have done a U turn and kept the CPP in place even though the SS has openly said the threshold of significant harm is not met. Absolutely distraught with all this!
After my Daughter being on a CPP plan for 15 months and SS escalating us to PLO. SS are ending their involvement with us. My OH was assessed as low risk and me being highly protective. They sent us their report today prior to our conference review this week and they have said they are ending their involvement. It is bittersweet and a rollercoaster of emotions at the same time. This forum has been amazing and I'll always be around to provide advice to anyone who needs it regarding their involvement with SS. Just waiting for the ombudsman now to pick up our complaint and I'll definitely provide an update on their outcome xx
After my Daughter being on a CPP plan for 15 months and SS escalating us to PLO. SS are ending their involvement with us. My OH was assessed as low risk and me being highly protective. They sent us their report today prior to our conference review this week and they have said they are ending their involvement. It is bittersweet and a rollercoaster of emotions at the same time. This forum has been amazing and I'll always be around to provide advice to anyone who needs it regarding their involvement with SS. Just waiting for the ombudsman now to pick up our complaint and I'll definitely provide an update on their outcome xx
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Hi, please can I ask how they have closed the case? And what things you had to do. I have an assessment I need to do which I am so anxious for as I've been told they go into depth, and also look at my background, and that I might wonder why they are asking things they are asking so I have no idea what is going to be said.
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It was closed on the back of an independent assessment commissioned when SS took us to PLO. The assessor does ask a lot of stuff- your upbringing (ie were you brought up safety and didn't suffer or witness any abuse). Have you got a good education- shows a good upbringing that you will pass down to your children. How you met your OH- how long were you together what was your relationship like etc. They need to build a picture of you and decide does it mean you can protect your child from potential future harm.
I was assessed as protective and my OH was low risk so it doesnt give SS a leg to stand on really.
Feel free to ask anything you want x
It was closed on the back of an independent assessment commissioned when SS took us to PLO. The assessor does ask a lot of stuff- your upbringing (ie were you brought up safety and didn't suffer or witness any abuse). Have you got a good education- shows a good upbringing that you will pass down to your children. How you met your OH- how long were you together what was your relationship like etc. They need to build a picture of you and decide does it mean you can protect your child from potential future harm.
I was assessed as protective and my OH was low risk so it doesnt give SS a leg to stand on really.
Feel free to ask anything you want x
Upset Mother! That is horrendous! How do they get away with doing a complete U turn? Can you appeal it?
I posted that in October- the case is now closed.
I don't think SS (senior managers anyway) in general were happy with the report- ie not the result they wanted as it basically dismantled their whole involvement and keeping us on a CPP for 16 months. They extended the CPP for three months just for "future safety planning" which does not meet the threshold of significant harm.
To be fair to the SW (she was new and took over just as PLO ended) she said she wants the case closed. She did one session with me about future safety planning, had a couple of sessions with my OH. Spoke to the IRO and brought the conference forward by two months and got the case closed. If it wasn't for her I don't know where we would be to be honest.
I don't think SS (senior managers anyway) in general were happy with the report- ie not the result they wanted as it basically dismantled their whole involvement and keeping us on a CPP for 16 months. They extended the CPP for three months just for "future safety planning" which does not meet the threshold of significant harm.
To be fair to the SW (she was new and took over just as PLO ended) she said she wants the case closed. She did one session with me about future safety planning, had a couple of sessions with my OH. Spoke to the IRO and brought the conference forward by two months and got the case closed. If it wasn't for her I don't know where we would be to be honest.
Please can I ask what made them take it to a PLO?
I'm having probems with SS - they are telling me I have to prioritise meetings over work (I'm full time self employed) but 9 times out of 10 these meetings get cancelled. I should have recieved a phonecall last week to arrange my first assessment which should have happened this week, and we are now on Friday.
We have visits every 2 weeks, I questioned about going away in the UK and the beginning of putting my child on a CPP, and the sw at the time said I didn't need to notify them if it was in this country... so we went away Fri to Sun a couple of weeks ago ( didn't sleep under the same roof) and my child mentioned we had a weekend away to her headteacher then she was questioned at school which the head teacher is denying... she then reported this back to the SW and she came to visit to say something had been raised so I explained everything. She also came with a girl who is supposedly doing my assessment and they both took my 6 year old up into her bedroom, and questioned her. Later on that evening my daughter got really upset as she barely knew the girl that was with her SW.. i tried to ring the SW half an hour after she left my house and also emailed her and nearly 2 weeks later I still haven't had a response. There behavious is disgusting. I am trying to keep a normal life for child with keeping to the bail conditions, and the SW seems to be having such a negative impact on her life by doing the actions she's doing.
We have visits every 2 weeks, I questioned about going away in the UK and the beginning of putting my child on a CPP, and the sw at the time said I didn't need to notify them if it was in this country... so we went away Fri to Sun a couple of weeks ago ( didn't sleep under the same roof) and my child mentioned we had a weekend away to her headteacher then she was questioned at school which the head teacher is denying... she then reported this back to the SW and she came to visit to say something had been raised so I explained everything. She also came with a girl who is supposedly doing my assessment and they both took my 6 year old up into her bedroom, and questioned her. Later on that evening my daughter got really upset as she barely knew the girl that was with her SW.. i tried to ring the SW half an hour after she left my house and also emailed her and nearly 2 weeks later I still haven't had a response. There behavious is disgusting. I am trying to keep a normal life for child with keeping to the bail conditions, and the SW seems to be having such a negative impact on her life by doing the actions she's doing.
The case drifted which is why it went to PLO, in my LA once a CPP has been in place for 9 months, they either step or step down. This is entirely their fault. We were supposed to have an assessment with Lucy Faithfull which they refuse to fund. That left us in no man's land and therefore took us to PLO to get access to funding- it's disgusting. In my PLO letter they wrote that I "refused a Lucy Faithfull assessment" even though it's clearly written in conference minutes that it's been withdrawn due to funding reasons. Absolutely made my blood boil with their outright lies and getting away with it.
Having visits every two weeks is annoying I feel your pain. Have you had any unnanounced visits? My SW tried to make every other visit unnanounced which I twigged quite early and made sure I was out when I thought she would come. In 16 months- I was at home for 3 unnanounced visits.
i completely relate to everything you say. The intrusion of SS does more damage than they realise. X
Having visits every two weeks is annoying I feel your pain. Have you had any unnanounced visits? My SW tried to make every other visit unnanounced which I twigged quite early and made sure I was out when I thought she would come. In 16 months- I was at home for 3 unnanounced visits.
i completely relate to everything you say. The intrusion of SS does more damage than they realise. X
They seem to do nothing but lie - it's absolutely awful. They are causing the disruption to the children. In my recent notes from the last conference there are things in there that aren't said which I will be bringing up.
She mostly does unanounced visits after school so we have been home every time, I think she's only ever done 2 announced visits in 5 months but the things she says to me, she says alsorts of awful things, and I think she should really be saying any of this, and she looks my OH up and down like a piece of crap won't even acknowledge him, or his family she just has no interest. But then when it comes to conference meetings she sits there and doesn't say a thing.
She mostly does unanounced visits after school so we have been home every time, I think she's only ever done 2 announced visits in 5 months but the things she says to me, she says alsorts of awful things, and I think she should really be saying any of this, and she looks my OH up and down like a piece of crap won't even acknowledge him, or his family she just has no interest. But then when it comes to conference meetings she sits there and doesn't say a thing.
*shouldn't be saying some of the things she says...
But I think she says it so she forces me to leave then she's basically ticked her box
But I think she says it so she forces me to leave then she's basically ticked her box
What sort of conversations did you have with your SW when she came round if you don't mind me asking?
We have very quickly come to the same conclusion as you - SS behaivour is beyond contempt. How are they allowed to get away with completely ignoring protocol and constantly documenting lie after lie. Accusing people of the most awful things without so much as a shred of evidence to back up anything they say!!
The visits were pointless, my Daughter was always happy, no issues with her what so ever and conversation was pointless. My Daughter doesn't know about the offence, so the SW just used to ask her how she was and how is school. The SW never visited my daughter in school whilst on CPP. While she was at CIN level, that SW did visit her at school once but apart from that she was left alone at school apart from a DSL just checking in on her every now and again.
Sometimes the SW would randomly bring a colleague which I think they do to test you to see how you react. They are absolutely horrible people. I don't know how these people can sleep at night x
Sometimes the SW would randomly bring a colleague which I think they do to test you to see how you react. They are absolutely horrible people. I don't know how these people can sleep at night x
It's all so disgusting - I am a very anxious person, and always worry they'll threaten to take my child from me but I would never let it come to that but she has told me if they found out more information she will be round and she will make comments like 'I will make you choose'... and telling me other things which are just completely inapproriate. We are wanting to go away to London for my daughter's 7th birthday (staying in different hotel rooms) obviously we will send dates / bookings but I have a feeling they are going to be awkward, and not allow it.