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Social Services are setting up a Child Protection conference.
They feel Person shouldn't be allowed to see his children except possibly in a controlled environment, and at times prescribed by them, whereas he has been seeing them almost every weekend with a supervising adult in a public place since the arrest, as per the terms of his bail. Now they want to prohibit him from even speaking with the kids on the phone, let alone see them, until after the conference.
We don't know much about this. He has a call booked with a specialist advisor from Stop it Now to go through it.
From what I can gather, the police, Social Services, teachers, (and I don't know what other professionals), Person and his wife, two eldest children, and myself, will attend the conference. Don't know what the process is. And why would police be involved when he is bailed to court atm, the police bailing having been completed? His plea hearing is coming up soon.
When the police were still in charge SS contacted them requesting this same thing, ie limited controlled visits as and when SS deemed fit, and no phone calls. OiC said absolutely not, we do not see him as being any risk at all to his children as long as he sticks to the bail conditions.
Setting up a child protection plan is, I gather, quite common in these cases, as an escalation from the CIN status currently in effect, but they have made no attempt to meet or support him (despite repeated requests), recognise his needs (multiple complex learning disabilities and IQ equivalent to that of a 10-12 year old) , acknowledge his determination not to re offend, or the consistent work he is doing for his rehab.
Some of SS's concern is over his wife not taking the offending seriously and that she is therefore not sufficiently safeguarding the children.
Any insight as to what happens, and do we get information about it beforehand?
Thanks
They feel Person shouldn't be allowed to see his children except possibly in a controlled environment, and at times prescribed by them, whereas he has been seeing them almost every weekend with a supervising adult in a public place since the arrest, as per the terms of his bail. Now they want to prohibit him from even speaking with the kids on the phone, let alone see them, until after the conference.
We don't know much about this. He has a call booked with a specialist advisor from Stop it Now to go through it.
From what I can gather, the police, Social Services, teachers, (and I don't know what other professionals), Person and his wife, two eldest children, and myself, will attend the conference. Don't know what the process is. And why would police be involved when he is bailed to court atm, the police bailing having been completed? His plea hearing is coming up soon.
When the police were still in charge SS contacted them requesting this same thing, ie limited controlled visits as and when SS deemed fit, and no phone calls. OiC said absolutely not, we do not see him as being any risk at all to his children as long as he sticks to the bail conditions.
Setting up a child protection plan is, I gather, quite common in these cases, as an escalation from the CIN status currently in effect, but they have made no attempt to meet or support him (despite repeated requests), recognise his needs (multiple complex learning disabilities and IQ equivalent to that of a 10-12 year old) , acknowledge his determination not to re offend, or the consistent work he is doing for his rehab.
Some of SS's concern is over his wife not taking the offending seriously and that she is therefore not sufficiently safeguarding the children.
Any insight as to what happens, and do we get information about it beforehand?
Thanks
Hi
My Daughter has been on a CPP since August 2024. The SW should give you a report at least two days prior to the conference to list their concerns and why it's gone to conference.
In a nutshell everybody discusses the strengths and concerns and decide whether to put a CPP in place or keep at CIN. All the professionals also have to give a score between 1 and 10. 1 being that your child in completely unsafe and 10 being that your child is safe.
Sorry I can't see your original post now but has he been charged yet? Think it's pretty standard for the police to attend the initial conference to make sure all the professionals are aware of the actual offence. If he hasn't been charged yet I'm not sure if it's classed as confidential and therefore I'm not sure what the police will discuss.
feel free to message me with any questions you have x
My Daughter has been on a CPP since August 2024. The SW should give you a report at least two days prior to the conference to list their concerns and why it's gone to conference.
In a nutshell everybody discusses the strengths and concerns and decide whether to put a CPP in place or keep at CIN. All the professionals also have to give a score between 1 and 10. 1 being that your child in completely unsafe and 10 being that your child is safe.
Sorry I can't see your original post now but has he been charged yet? Think it's pretty standard for the police to attend the initial conference to make sure all the professionals are aware of the actual offence. If he hasn't been charged yet I'm not sure if it's classed as confidential and therefore I'm not sure what the police will discuss.
feel free to message me with any questions you have x
We had CPP conference oo back in October I think. It was a few weeks before his plea hearing. The police just stated what he was charged with and the age ranges of the photos in each category. Each professional seemed happy with what was being done currently but due to the future sexual harm risk due to the unknowns of what may be his sentence in court and they fully believe he is just waiting to rape her in a decades time (yeah that was a horrible conversation to have) we got put on a CPP plan. He needs to do a phyc review to show he is a low risk and is unlikely to rape our daughter....
Everything has stayed the same. I still facilitate the supervision where ever and when ever I see fit. SS check in as usual so far.
Everything has stayed the same. I still facilitate the supervision where ever and when ever I see fit. SS check in as usual so far.
Thank you both.
Yes he has been charged and signed off by the police. Will the original OiC be called in to the conference then? That would make sense as she is the one who knows the case, and knows him a little too.
I am thinking to go armed with copies of everything we took to the 2nd interview, like therapist letter, Stop it now statement of engagement, list of his rehab activity and progress, evidence of his learning difficulties and their impact and associated current benefits from medication, etc, and give to each professional attendee. And particularly ask chairperson to put the docs in the conference case folder so it is on record. Good idea?
Yes he has been charged and signed off by the police. Will the original OiC be called in to the conference then? That would make sense as she is the one who knows the case, and knows him a little too.
I am thinking to go armed with copies of everything we took to the 2nd interview, like therapist letter, Stop it now statement of engagement, list of his rehab activity and progress, evidence of his learning difficulties and their impact and associated current benefits from medication, etc, and give to each professional attendee. And particularly ask chairperson to put the docs in the conference case folder so it is on record. Good idea?
My OhH had been charged when we went to conference. The OIC didn't attend but someone from his department did who had a copy of the conversation he got involved in. My OH was seeing a StopSO therapist on a weekly basis for a number of months and the conference chair dismissed the report. She said they don't class it as an independent report as my OH had paid for the therapy and she refused to discuss it during the conference. If anything is happening that you don't agree with speak up and say so- in hindsight SS were being unlawful in my opinion in hiding evidence from professionals xx
Upset mother, your experience makes me feel worried about what ours will be. Terrible that the chair wouldnt consider the specialised therapist's report! Did you put in a complaint?
Got a stage 2 complaint open at the minute that is being overseen by an independent person. This is in relation to how the core groups have been run- receiving core group minutes weeks/months late, Probation being allowed to inflate risk and why our complaint last year (which included the StopSo report being dismissed) was investigated by the corporate route rather then Childrens Act route. This denies you an independent person and a Stage 3 investigation. Our Authority have been extremely bad and dishonest. If the conference chair is not willing share any positive updates- make sure you do and you have the SW report at least two days prior to the conference. x