Requesting sentencing details from crown court

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Calypso78

Member since
December 2024

26 posts

Hi all,

Has anyone put in a request to the crown court for all the sentencing details? If so did they tell you everything or decline due to the nature of the offences?

I was in court when he was sentenced however the judge didn't go into the details of the SHPO. We have children together who currently want nothing to do with him but it would be useful to know just in case that changes.

He is a compulsive liar do won't tell me the truth!

Many thanks :)

Posted Fri March 6, 2026 1:10pmReport post

Sunshine&Rainbows

Member since
July 2025

207 posts

When we had VISOR at our CPP meeting. They said SHPOs are very specific to the person. Online offences will have online only restrictions for example. There will be slight differences between everyone. Some people will have restrictions with under 18s usually requiring SS to give the go ahead to be unrestricted if there is restrictions. But if they dont have restrictions SS will want a comprehensive safety plan before they will allow any form of unsupervised contact.

The type of sentence they get is linked to what theyve done. Due to prisons being so full the changes of jail is less at the moment.

Posted Fri March 6, 2026 2:18pmReport post

Calypso78

Member since
December 2024

26 posts

Thank you for replying, that why I need to know what the details of his one is so that I can follow it but the police officer that was in charge of the case is ghosting me ???? so I am on my own trying to find out what his conditions are!

It's never easy is it!

Posted Fri March 6, 2026 3:36pmReport post

Knightmare

Member since
December 2025

33 posts

Hey there,

in our case the SHPO was discussed just briefly in court and details only where the barrister requested changes. I got the redpen version from the solicitor and a copy of the letter that arrived via mail. However I didn t get it from the police or court and I m not sure if you have a right to request it. I had full disclosure so I also got the pre sentencing report and the police report. If you don t have disclosure from your person I imagine you have no legal right to request the documents... ?

Posted Fri March 6, 2026 6:17pmReport post

Knightmare

Member since
December 2025

33 posts

ah, and sunshine, contrary to what you mention and what i read on the forum few times latelly: the offences where online grooming (i.e. sexual communication with a child/decoy) - the shpo however includes some restriction regarding Behaviour/ Contact anyway.

Posted Fri March 6, 2026 6:21pmReport post

Ocean

Member since
September 2023

1099 posts

Hi Calypso,

Your person will have the details of his Sexual Harm Prevention Order (SHPO) clearly set out in writing. Compliance with the order will be monitored by his probation officer and offender manager. Any breach of the SHPO constitutes a criminal offence and may result in his arrest. If he is subject to a suspended sentence order, a breach could lead to the suspension being activated and a custodial sentence being imposed. With this in mind he will hopefully be unlikely to do anything that risks a breach of his SHPO.

His probation officer and/or offender manager (ViSOR-registered) will have oversight of relevant aspects of his life, including the fact that he is not currently in contact with his children. Should this situation change, they would notify social services and ensure that any proposed contact is appropriately risk-assessed and complies fully with the restrictions set out in the SHPO.

In general terms, SHPOs imposed for offences involving indecent images of children (IIOC) tend to focus primarily on restrictions relating to internet access and the use of digital devices. SHPOs imposed for offences involving online communication with minors typically include both internet-use restrictions and limitations on contact with children.

Since 2024, both IIOC offences and certain online communication offences have been classified as indirect contact offences. However, the typical SHPO restrictions applied in cases involving communication offences have not yet been widely adjusted to reflect this classification.

I hope this helps put you mind.


Posted Fri March 6, 2026 8:54pmReport post

OneStepAtATime

Member since
October 2025

109 posts

Can definitely also confirm that in person restrictions are in place in SHPOs for online only offences. Not allowed around under 18s unless with parents consent and knowledge of offence (plus SS approval I believe). Also having to report to offending manager any developing friendship with adults. Lots of IT based restrictions obviously also

Posted Fri March 6, 2026 9:35pmReport post

AnxiousGirl

Member since
December 2023

361 posts

I wasn't in court so only knew what the custodial was when his solicitor rang I did however contact the Procurator Fiscal for details of what he was charged with and I was given the details. My charming and now ex husband had downplayed it all. I don't know what was on his SHPO though and I've now found out via FB that he has broken several of the terms of his SHPO and is back in court tomorrow



Good riddance to bad rubbish

Posted Mon March 9, 2026 1:49pmReport post

Calypso78

Member since
December 2024

26 posts

Thanks all for your responses.

It feels like I am completely in the dark over all of this and I ultimately have to look after and protect my children without all the full facts.

He did get a suspended sentence, he only avoided prison due to playing the mental health card very well and the majority of what came out of his defence barristers mouth was lies that he had fed to her. The whole thing was shocking and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. He even got the ages of our children wrong, making them younger and more vulnerable to not having a dad around if he went to prison. Either that or it shows what a terrible parent he is, to not actually know how old his children are!

I am still awaiting a reply from the court so will update once received.

As said before, he is a compulsive liar so even if I asked him for the details he wouldn't be honest with them.

Posted Tue March 10, 2026 2:08pmReport post

Calypso78

Member since
December 2024

26 posts

Just a quick update, the crown court were great and sent me an entire 9 page conviction certificate detailing all sentencing information. Thought this might be helpful for others in a similar position.

Posted Tue March 24, 2026 4:05pmReport post

Sad&Scared

Member since
January 2024

293 posts

I really feel for you. It's incredibly unfair how few rights we as the mothers of their children have. I'm 'lucky' in that my ex has given me full disclosure and I get to see all the paperwork. Otherwise I would be completely in the dark too.

Posted Tue March 24, 2026 4:52pmReport post


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