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Vickie

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November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 10:57amReport post

I now know my husband is meeting with probation on the 4 Jan and then in court the 4 Feb for sentencing,, if I choices to stand by him,.

What things can I do to show I am taking the risk seriously,,

I have looked online but can't really find much I have been on the Internet matter and I have change Internet password and I only know it I have connected the devices I want on it and that's it,,,

I have changed my password on my phone to a code that again only I know,, I have start my child protection plan,

I have spoken to my in laws about this and they say they will support me in my choices,,

Before all this I always spoke to my daughter about the body triangle and no body touches u here nobody,, she know the right names for the body parts to so that if anything was to every happen and she say it to some body they will listen,,,

Do u think this is a good start and when should I talk to my ss about this should this be after the court date

He want to do the course on here and so do I,, he getting help for his mental health and he is so remorseful I want to know how we can move forward how ever that many be x

Advice welcome x

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 2:20pmReport post

Thank u lee

Can I ring sky and ask for these blocks to be put into place as I am with sky to,,

Is there anything else I can do to show that I am safeguarding my kids and myself and my husband,,

Just don't know when to put all this forward to my ss should I do it now or after his sentencing,,

I have not heard of My ss before Xmas but also going to try and see if I can change after she keeps telling me what she would do and how she would handle it,,

Thanks for advice

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 2:27pmReport post

I don't have children, so can't really comment on that aspect. But this is what I did before my husband moved back to show police / probation I was taking it seriously.

Changed Wifi password

Added a pin on my smart TV to access the internet

Enabled the child safety settings on my virgin router

Created him his own login on the laptop to keep his internet activity separate from mine.

Insisted that he could only use the internet when I was around. This was also because his SHPO has a lot of conditions and he was anxious about accidentally doing something he shouldn't.

Double checked everything on the laptop to ensure that it wouldn't delete his internet history unintentionally. McAfee was set to periodically delete temp internet files etc to free up space so had to disable that setting. (Still paranoid that it'll re-enable itself)

I read the SOR requirements and his SHPO to ensure that I understood them.

Requested a meeting with probation and his police manager.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 2:56pmReport post

Thank u guys

I just want to do everything right like I say I have children and weather we are together or a part they want to know him so I want to do it all the right way,,

I will defo ask to look at all the paper work and defo request to see probation officer to,,

I have already charge all password on device and never been able to get my TV to contact to the wii so its come un blocked,,

Did u talk these thing through with ss once u know what the sentencing was or did u start all this before hand

Thank u again for ur advice x

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 3:16pmReport post

Hi mij

May I ask you what ur husband or partner chargers where,,

My husband has been arrested for indecent messenger thro a police decoy,,

I have understanding of the SHPO and SOR because of my job which was support worker to individuals with these offernivse but my ss is using this against me saying that it has desensitisated me,,

I just don't know how I can prove that is not the case

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 3:50pmReport post

His was a communication offence (decoy) - 16 months suspended for 2 years and SHPO.

If SS are trying to use your previous experience against you, I wonder if you can spin that experience around to a positive for you. In that you have experience in how serious these offended are.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 4:26pmReport post

That's what I am thinking and that if individuals like our partners are not given the help and support then it can lead to worse offensive behaviour or them reafeding,,

Yes I might get my paper work out and start there thank u mij,,, I know it not easy but at the same time I am not saying it right but if he had acted on it or not showen remorse or wanting help then I would not be even thinking about I would of said we are gone,,,

I know this is going to take time but I can see some light in turning this around xx

Thank u both for the support x

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 6:03pmReport post

I want to thank u both I feel so empowered to sit and make my choices and with a very clear head to,,

Mji is ur partner aloud on social media like Facebook and things I just thinking of closing mine and coming off it if this has teach me anything then it learn tech at the door and use it when needed but what free time we have to spend together laughing instead of been on phones and tablets,,

I also think the more time spent online we going to have more people joining this site,,

I want to bring to this problem but just sure how to it

majestictopaz15

Member since
December 2019

371 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 7:58pmReport post

I think the steps you have taken already is great and is what the police will be happy to see. I have no involvement with SS but my partner's police liaison asks me each time she visits to check he doesn't know my passwords. I also ask for my partner's passwords to online accouts for websites so that I can check in on what he is saying. The police seem happy with this too.

Also as a fyi as part of the SHPO my partner had software downloaded by the police for his laptop (it was about a year after his sentence I will admit that they got around to it. But nothing for his phone yet..).

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 8:09pmReport post

Hi Vickie

Facebook terms and conditions are such that anyone convicted for these offences cannot have a facebook account. My husband's was deleted before sentencing.

He only goes online now for things like online banking, and actually doesn't miss it. He talks to friends on the phone who previously he'd only have messaged via Facebook etc.

I know what you mean about spending more quality time rather than both sitting their on our phones.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun January 3, 2021 8:30pmReport post

Thank u so much mij

Its so scary that the life with live with the Internet and stuff,, he has said he does not want it in his life and does not miss it at all,, he understand that the kids need it with online school cause of covid and school but he does not want it in his life but has said would for online banking,,

And I defo want that family back that did thing walks in the park and laughing at silly things instead of sitting other side of the room on phones and not talking to each other,,,,

I am willing to try I just need to know its possible and mij u have made me see it is thank u again xxx

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Mon January 4, 2021 8:26amReport post

We've all been conditioned that we need the internet and social media etc, but the reality is we actually don't need it as much as we first think. Sure some things are easier with it, or quicker. My husband watches the news / listens to the radio / buys paper rather than reading the news online for example.

He did have a joke with anyone who asked him to scan in during the summer, showing them his 'dumb phone'!!

The thing that he is finding is that people assume you have an email address and internet and make it harder for you to contact / deal with them if you don't. He uses my email address for things like online banking, doctors etc.

I won't claim life is easy living with someone on the register. We do have the plain clothed police turning up, they read the texts on his phone (so no privacy there). Even though it wasn't in the paper, some people have found out. It probably took me a year to become less paranoid about being out and people saying stuff etc. Lockdown really helped with that as there was a lot less people about. Sure it's a different life to perhaps what I thought we might have, but a lot of the things which he now can't do, where not things we would have done anyway, like foreign holidays.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Mon January 4, 2021 10:31amReport post

I understand a lot about how life around us can take over and thats not me blaming myself or anything it's just saying I can understand how we may of got here,,

I understand the Internet is the bee all and end all for some but it never been a important part of my life really but I am happy with just having my date on phone for online banking,, and talking to u guys for support,,

I am also have a little more hope as we are hoping to move to cause my house no long fits my sons needs,,

And on the other side I heard my neighbour talking to another about seeing the police coming and taking him away and cause he not been back it got to be bad,, I want to shout over and tell the to shut up but I did not the they said well if he comes back here people have all ready said they will hurt him,, well what if my children where with him I just so can't wait to move away from them,,,

Can u not do any of forgien travel once ur on the registrate xx

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Mon January 4, 2021 12:58pmReport post

Sounds like moving will be good for you on all counts.

As for foreign travel, some countries that require visas will not grant them to those with convictions, regardless of what it is for. Currently you can still travel within the EU, but whether that will continue who knows. You also have to notify if you leave the country and can expect that there might be additional questions when going through immigration.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Mon January 4, 2021 1:22pmReport post

Thank u mij for answering my questions I feel like I slowly gerting answer my husband solicitor got the disclosure today so waiting for him to ring and answer my question then I feel I can see some light,,,

I feel like I can do this just next step is working towards to the 4 Feb for sentencing,,

Then it's my partner birthday the 8 Feb don't know how going to cope with that but I will find away x

Thank u all for support

KDLB

Member since
April 2020

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Posted Thu January 7, 2021 5:07pmReport post

I'm interested in the answers about restrictions after sentencing on internet use, didn't know about stopping use of Facebook- is this the same for all other sites like Instagram, and what's app??



what effect might there be on internet use for work? He has work laptop and work mobile phone

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Fri January 8, 2021 12:12pmReport post

The police will probably ask in a visit which social media accounts they are using. My husband only had Facebook so I never looked into the others.

I just checked Instagram - they specifically exclude sex offenders

What's app doesn't specifically call out excluding sex offenders in their terms and conditions at this time, but I for see that changing.

The risk with social media, and any online communication channel like chat rooms and forums is that it is really easy to end up interacting with someone who is under 16 without knowing it. Depending on SHPO conditions you could easily find those being breached and the police take that seriously. Therefore I strongly recommend that anyone convicted stays away from these types of sites and apps.

Using a computer at work is interesting, again doesn't apply to my husband as he decided to take early retirement before sentencing. In theory he would be required to make any devices he uses available to the police to be checked and so that would include any work devices. Some offenders are also required to have logging software installed by the police to monitor their internet use, and you may not want to be having that conversation with your boss!

You could try the unlock helpline, they may have more of an idea. Ultimately it could come down to what SHPO restrictions are put in place and what his specific risk manager and probation officer agree to. I do know some offenders will avoid office jobs where they need to use a work computer to avoid this situation.

majestictopaz15

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December 2019

371 posts

Posted Fri January 8, 2021 1:46pmReport post

As stated above depends on the conditions of the SHPO but also the attitude of the police liaison, well that is the case for my partner.

He is still on social media and police are aware. When they do checks they look through that and his what's app. I'm not sure but I think the fact he is on social media leaves his risk greater than low. He hasn't had a review of his risk on a while due to covid hold ups.

A year after he was sentenced he got software on his laptop to monitor. It doesn't track what he is doing but will flag up search's or websites and images and videos of concern.

He has a work computer which the police has details of but they have never checked it. I assume they would if they have reason to suspect he reoffends.

He did remove Kik because that caused concern and his risk was deemed higher because of it.

Edited Fri January 8, 2021 1:46pm

Vickie

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November 2020

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Posted Fri January 8, 2021 1:46pmReport post

Thank u hun for replying well waiting for probation to come and see him they where meant to come out the 4 Jan but have not yet been in touch,,

So done my safe plan,/ child protection order,,

Going to do the course to time to but it action x

Yes he removed kik closed it down and deleted it x

Edited Fri January 8, 2021 10:53pm