SOR/SHOPO/SRO so confused
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My husband case is currently with the CPS and has been since December last year.
Bit of background is basically he had one conversation on KIK no images. His other devices were all checked and returned as nothing else was including no Search terms.
The wait is horrific and I find it hard sleeping during Monday to Friday with the fear of the phone call with the decision. I can rest on Saturday and Sunday knowing their will be no call.
The fear is unreal he currently lives at home with our 8 year old and 3 month old supervised contact and case currently closed with SS.
Now my question are these:
If he is charged and get put on SOR does he automatically get a SHPO?
Other people in similar cases what has their outcome been?
There is a thing called a SRO (sexual risk order) which seems to be uses in cases where there isn't loads of evidence but enough for the person to be 'a risk' has anyone had this?
I am freaking out I would not be able to cope without my husband at home. I would not sleep and our son would be traumatised by this.
Any who can help calm me I really would appreciate it xx
Bit of background is basically he had one conversation on KIK no images. His other devices were all checked and returned as nothing else was including no Search terms.
The wait is horrific and I find it hard sleeping during Monday to Friday with the fear of the phone call with the decision. I can rest on Saturday and Sunday knowing their will be no call.
The fear is unreal he currently lives at home with our 8 year old and 3 month old supervised contact and case currently closed with SS.
Now my question are these:
If he is charged and get put on SOR does he automatically get a SHPO?
Other people in similar cases what has their outcome been?
There is a thing called a SRO (sexual risk order) which seems to be uses in cases where there isn't loads of evidence but enough for the person to be 'a risk' has anyone had this?
I am freaking out I would not be able to cope without my husband at home. I would not sleep and our son would be traumatised by this.
Any who can help calm me I really would appreciate it xx
Hi there
If charged, it is very likely he will be subject to SOR. That doesn't automatically mean he will get a SHPO, however it does appear that most people do as it means the police can check things like internet history.
No 2 offences are the same, so it would be pretty hard to second guess what the sentence would be. With communication offences this seems to get harder as depends what the actually what they charge with. I've seen sentences range from 12 months to 4 years. So really it's a case of prepare for the worse and hope for the best. Once the solicitor has the charges they will be able to advise based on the sentencing guidelines.
I've only seen a SRO applied when there were several complaints against someone but not enough evidence to convict.
Hope that answers some of your questions.
If charged, it is very likely he will be subject to SOR. That doesn't automatically mean he will get a SHPO, however it does appear that most people do as it means the police can check things like internet history.
No 2 offences are the same, so it would be pretty hard to second guess what the sentence would be. With communication offences this seems to get harder as depends what the actually what they charge with. I've seen sentences range from 12 months to 4 years. So really it's a case of prepare for the worse and hope for the best. Once the solicitor has the charges they will be able to advise based on the sentencing guidelines.
I've only seen a SRO applied when there were several complaints against someone but not enough evidence to convict.
Hope that answers some of your questions.
Hey lovely!
Thanks for the reply.
So he has been alleged to have a conversation with a 12 year old (police decoy) which involved sexual conversation something to do with inciting 12 year old to engage with sexual behaviour. He spoke and admitted the conversation right from the start but Denys that it was due to an interest in children. Everything he has said has turned out to be the truth and proven true as the police investigation continued on.
Now his solicitor has sent written reps saying that the terms and conditions of kik were no one under 13 can be allowed online. Also my husband was going on there to play out sexual fantasy with adults like teacher student, nurse Doctor. He disclosed everything about himself and like I said had no other evidence of any interest in children from the 20 devices that were taken. And he had had over 200 conversation on KIK with women and none of them of this nature. Which the investigating officer told our solicitor and no search for this sort of thing.
It's just the fear of the not known. I am scared that the CPS are not going to look at the lack of evidence, the mitigating circumstances and see this as a stupid mistake rather than seeing it from a lawyer who just want to go to court over everything.
But I am just so scared my sleep is rapidly decreasing and I don't know how much more I can handle
Thanks for the reply.
So he has been alleged to have a conversation with a 12 year old (police decoy) which involved sexual conversation something to do with inciting 12 year old to engage with sexual behaviour. He spoke and admitted the conversation right from the start but Denys that it was due to an interest in children. Everything he has said has turned out to be the truth and proven true as the police investigation continued on.
Now his solicitor has sent written reps saying that the terms and conditions of kik were no one under 13 can be allowed online. Also my husband was going on there to play out sexual fantasy with adults like teacher student, nurse Doctor. He disclosed everything about himself and like I said had no other evidence of any interest in children from the 20 devices that were taken. And he had had over 200 conversation on KIK with women and none of them of this nature. Which the investigating officer told our solicitor and no search for this sort of thing.
It's just the fear of the not known. I am scared that the CPS are not going to look at the lack of evidence, the mitigating circumstances and see this as a stupid mistake rather than seeing it from a lawyer who just want to go to court over everything.
But I am just so scared my sleep is rapidly decreasing and I don't know how much more I can handle
My husband was charged with a communication offence as well, no interest in children.
If it goes to court, then between the plea hearing and the sentencing there should be an opportunity for probation to do a pre-sentencing report. That is not a requirement, so make sure the solicitor pushes to get that done. That is a opportunity for him to also raise any mitigating circumstances, to show what he's done since to try and help himself etc. Those reports can help persuade the judge, but ultimately the judge can ignore them too.
I would prepare for the worse case of a custodial and if that doesn't happen then it's a bonus. At the end of the day, this is totally out of your hands, you can't control or predict what is going to happen unfortunately which definitely adds to all the stress and anxiety of the situation.
Try to take care of yourself, even if it's just making sure the basics are done, like getting out of bed, eating 3 meals, going to sleep at a regular time. Now the weather is starting to get better, go for a walk and take in the scenery etc.
If it goes to court, then between the plea hearing and the sentencing there should be an opportunity for probation to do a pre-sentencing report. That is not a requirement, so make sure the solicitor pushes to get that done. That is a opportunity for him to also raise any mitigating circumstances, to show what he's done since to try and help himself etc. Those reports can help persuade the judge, but ultimately the judge can ignore them too.
I would prepare for the worse case of a custodial and if that doesn't happen then it's a bonus. At the end of the day, this is totally out of your hands, you can't control or predict what is going to happen unfortunately which definitely adds to all the stress and anxiety of the situation.
Try to take care of yourself, even if it's just making sure the basics are done, like getting out of bed, eating 3 meals, going to sleep at a regular time. Now the weather is starting to get better, go for a walk and take in the scenery etc.
Mjl73 can I ask what ur husband got? Also did ur husband chat with the person over a few days or just a 1 of?! My husband is being investigated for sending messages to a minor on an over 18 apps
He was given 16 months suspended for 2 years. I don't want to give too many details, I'm sure you can understand.