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Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sat February 27, 2021 11:40amReport post

I have redone my child protection plan,, my assessment has not been easy reading, but I don't know whether it a good sign that she has not put in there no contact,, she put they have concerns,, can family's get thro this with SHPO and SOR in places,, his probation office sound lovely and she said that we can make it if that's what I want for the family and that she will call me to be at my partners first meeting,, I wish I one way I could just walk away and start rebuilding my life but I need everything for my daughter so I can explain as she grows,, I don't think people understand that.

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Sat February 27, 2021 11:45amReport post

Sorry to read that you are struggling. Have they said what their concerns are, I really feel for you because the police obviously told SS there was a child sex related offence to start with and then never charged him with that. If they had gone straight for the original charge you might have never ended up in this position.



Ultimately only you can decide if you can / want to make it work. There are people who have managed to get their families back together, so it's certainly possible even if it's not always easy.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sat February 27, 2021 12:39pmReport post

I am just struggling with not knowing where this information has come from,, been told I am not protecting my children yes I understand what he said in his messages I can't change that,, I have not asked for him to come home probation did now I having that thro at me,, can I get a family solicitor to look over this do u think that will help me or make things worse.

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Sat February 27, 2021 1:58pmReport post

If you haven't already done so I would file a request for all the information SS hold on you. That will allow you to see if they have information which isn't true etc.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sat February 27, 2021 2:05pmReport post

I did that ages a go and nothing has came,, I just have 2 single assessment that statement concerns they have about conversation we have had over the last couple or months,, I have been told I can request under Sarah's law but who do I contact asking for that,, I am just so tired that I feel like giving up but then I feel that not protecting my children ever best the resettlement team have said he can be settled in the same area which I then feel I will be looking over my shoulder all the time when I am out with the kids I have not said I want to support him,, not said I am walking I just want everything,, probation seams very understanding from the short conversation I had with her other day she believed in rehabilitation safely and correctly and if that what I want she will help that to happen,, I am scared that sw is in world of her own making me to be a really unsafe person,,

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Sat February 27, 2021 3:05pmReport post

You need to go to the police station if you want disclosure under Sarah's law. I'm sure if you phone your local police station they will be able to tell you the process.

As for SS disclosure, start quoting things like GDPR at them, that should get them moving. I know with GDPR requests you have 28 days to provide the information requested.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sat February 27, 2021 4:51pmReport post

See I have received two signal assessment but they are paper based and I did the request in Jan and asked for them to be sent thro email,,

OK will do so,, I can't change the passed but can learn from it and my daughter and son love there dad so much that I will do all I can to help them have something,, that not me saying we are happy family but I have one child with him and can't just write him off if that makes sense x x

Saphire

Member since
January 2021

144 posts

Posted Sun February 28, 2021 8:27amReport post

Hi Vickie I don't really have any advice for you and your situation. But I just wanted to say I'm thinking of you and hoping you get the best out of this for you and your kids x keep strong x

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun February 28, 2021 11:42amReport post

Thank saphire I just finding it hard to understand who has the facts and how we can move forward,, how to show people I not rubbish parent,, just feel the lionesses is becoming very tried I just don't know why we have to be treated like we are criminals to just can't wait to wake up and move no now.

Saphire

Member since
January 2021

144 posts

Posted Sun February 28, 2021 4:19pmReport post

You've already came so far I know this is probably the hard bit now but every day is another through this journey and a step closer to an ending. You can do this, I can tell you're a great mum you care a lot and you're doing all you can x

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun February 28, 2021 5:58pmReport post

Oh saphire

You know how to make a grown women cry I don't feel that way at the moment everything and everyone seams to be setting me off,, my daughter went over to the mother in laws and went out with my daughter and other family members,, I just feel like they are not bothed about me and my son then my daughter came home told what she had been up to,, it sent my son thro the roof,, spiked his behaviour though hitting and biting himself I said ages ago this would happen and none listens now what to do so lost at this moment x

Saphire

Member since
January 2021

144 posts

Posted Sun February 28, 2021 7:48pmReport post

Ah Vickie you are I have read your posts for weeks now and always thought what a strong woman and what an amazing mother. You're fighting for them and for you in every way you can. You've put together amazing ground work and really put a lot in place. I know when we are at our lowest and everything around us seems to be going wrong it's easy to start to crack but just know deep down you are a good mother, you didn't do this and you didn't ask to be in this situation either and you're doing a bloody good job of dealing with it. I hope the next week will be more positive for you x

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Sun February 28, 2021 9:19pmReport post

Thank u saphire

I just want to know why sw play the way they do its so hurtful to the family,, then to go on about the original charges then for the first time in the report it say he not been charged with a sexual crime,, that's not me playing down what hes done its wrong and I will always say that cause that's what I believe but also we have to acknowledge the facts to,, just don't know where I am at in all this,, how u doing saphire

Saphire

Member since
January 2021

144 posts

Posted Mon March 1, 2021 11:39amReport post

I don't know why the families end up so damaged in this process the support and the attitude of ss seems so inappropriate sometimes it's not fair.

I've had an okay weekend was a busy one so went so quickly which helped as I find weekends really difficult to ge through I usually feel at my lowest and most lonely because its just not a weekend like what I had before thsi started. We are challenging our sw on the conditions of the safety plan but she's said case is closed - so it's going to her manager tomorrow now to challenge her on it. Don't know how case can be closed when there's unanswered questions from us.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Mon March 1, 2021 12:24pmReport post

It's so hard to balance everything feels and how they handle things,, then disclosing this to family memebers and how we are meet to deal with it,, but then u have ur only feels to deal with I understand they have to protect the children but also we need support and if we don't see this to the end how do we then move on,,

I so would love for my sw to just have a bit of a understanding,, how this affects everyone,,

Yes I like weekends I get a bit of a break but then I hate it at the same time cause I sitting here on my one starting to over think things,,

Saphire

Member since
January 2021

144 posts

Posted Mon March 1, 2021 7:00pmReport post

My weekends are so full on as the kids are young they don't do lazy days but it's the weekend evening I struggle with the loneliness kills me when they go to sleep. This weekend was better as I had family for food one evening and the other I was shattered and fell asleep quite early so didn't have the sitting watching the hours tick by.

It's so damaging what happens. Are you planning on staying with your husband? I can't remember if you said you were or if you were supportive of him for the kids. Either way I hope you stay strong you've came this far. I know the police are looking at devices now which can take ages still but the fact they've started looking partly unsettles me - what will they find then it also makes me think I will know the facts and can make decisions and plan the next steps.

Vickie

Member since
November 2020

428 posts

Posted Mon March 1, 2021 8:30pmReport post

Not a hundred percent sure at the moment we are talking I love him still but at the same time need time to heal myself,, plus still waiting on devices to come back and for correct information to be shared to,,

The fight is so trying and then I have losed a very close friend and think I will lose more on the way but then I need to just sit down and ask my self some questions and see where that takes me,,

The nights are the worst now the kids back at school the nights have become longer but once they are washed and settled I then try and just take 5,, to breath and aim for 10 clock to go to bed like,,

Are standing by ur partner hun,, how are the kids doing have u had a look at stopso hun that's another helpful site xxx

Saphire

Member since
January 2021

144 posts

Posted Tue March 2, 2021 10:16amReport post

Does that mean they're still investigating him even though he's been sentenced? Are they looking at other offences? It's all so complicated isn't it.

It sounds like you're doing the best you can in a rubbish situation. I've been going to bed at 9 for the last couple of weeks and watching TV take a cuppa up with me and just relax find it easier than the emptiness of sitting downstairs.

I really don't know I need to see what they find on the devices. If they find what he says they will then there's a chance I could stand by him but to begin with he will need to prove he's serious we will need couples therapy. I won't be rushing him back into my house. If they find more than what he says they will or the ages are lower than he says which he says are older teens then I think I'll probably end it but support him in being a dad and support him in a fight to try and coparent for the sake of our kids.

majestictopaz15

Member since
December 2019

371 posts

Posted Tue March 2, 2021 12:53pmReport post

Depends on their offending behaviour and whether they 'paid much attention' to the extent of their offending. In my partner's case he did tell me that they would be all categories but he didn't know the age ranges as such because some files he didn't look at but stored anyway.

I'm not sure if he was hiding the truth from me. For me at the time the fact he did warn it is all categories was enough for me to make a decision on our relationship. But at the sentencing hearing I felt sick when they disclosed the worst of what they found. I kinda regretted not asking more or asking for disclosure from the investigation before court because in a way my decision on staying by wasn't fully informed.

He said he can't remember the iioc mentioned as the worst example but didn't deny whether he did view it or was an unopened file. He had offending on and off for ten years. No excuse ofc but the addiction and major denial in his behaviour and stupid warped sense of reality and depravity meant for him he never fully reflected on his offending until given effective rehabilitation.

Essentially some offenders may not really remember or know what will be found especially if they been doing it for a long time.