I want him to get maximum - please tell me he will
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Whenever I read your posts, I just want to give you a big hug. I hope he is given a just sentence, and that he is made to face up to his behaviour and actions and try to change. I am so sorry you are going through this xx
Hi steli
I don't see it often but since your ex is pleading not guilty it will go to a jury and I believe of they deem him guilty judges tend to give a harsher sentence than if the offender went with guilty from the start.
It does depend on the Judge on the day but they go by the guidance of the sentencing council (I think that is what it is called) and factor in mitigation factors. It sounds to me your ex hasn't taken accountability for his actions so he isn't doing himself any favours in trying to get a lesser sentence if found guilty.
Big hugs
I don't see it often but since your ex is pleading not guilty it will go to a jury and I believe of they deem him guilty judges tend to give a harsher sentence than if the offender went with guilty from the start.
It does depend on the Judge on the day but they go by the guidance of the sentencing council (I think that is what it is called) and factor in mitigation factors. It sounds to me your ex hasn't taken accountability for his actions so he isn't doing himself any favours in trying to get a lesser sentence if found guilty.
Big hugs
Hey Steli,
You are not alone, i'm hoping my ex will get a custodial sentence. He hasn't been charged yet and he only had less than 20 the majority were Cat A videos but judging by the outcomes I've seen on here I doubt he will... but I still hope
He too is a serial manipulator. He knows exactly what to do and to say to get people to believe him and take pity on him. He tried to incriminate me aswell when he was interviewed by police, they haven't taken it any further. Fortunately our SW saw straight through him. She said she could tell just from talking to him that he is a manipulative man who emotionally abuses people to get what he wants. (So true)
I can't post much on here because he reads some of the forum so it isn't safe for me anymore.
But I just had to reply to your post. Just to let you know you are not alone and what you are feeling is OK! You've been through a lot and he sounds just awful. I hope he gets what he deserves x
You are not alone, i'm hoping my ex will get a custodial sentence. He hasn't been charged yet and he only had less than 20 the majority were Cat A videos but judging by the outcomes I've seen on here I doubt he will... but I still hope
He too is a serial manipulator. He knows exactly what to do and to say to get people to believe him and take pity on him. He tried to incriminate me aswell when he was interviewed by police, they haven't taken it any further. Fortunately our SW saw straight through him. She said she could tell just from talking to him that he is a manipulative man who emotionally abuses people to get what he wants. (So true)
I can't post much on here because he reads some of the forum so it isn't safe for me anymore.
But I just had to reply to your post. Just to let you know you are not alone and what you are feeling is OK! You've been through a lot and he sounds just awful. I hope he gets what he deserves x
If he is pleading not guilty, and he is found guilty, then he will get a harsher sentence. The lack of remorse will also give a higher sentence, but he will also lose any discount for an early guilty plea. That could make the difference between a suspended and time in prison. You noted he talked during interviews, that is usually not of any benefit to the defendant. My partner mentioned things in his interview, which wasn't at all relevant, but lets say didn't make him look very good. These statements were read out in court. Any cockiness is not going to go down well with a judge. Also, I wouldn't underestimate the impact of a community order or suspended sentence. Any conviction like this is life changing.
Personally I don't believe my partner is guilty of his offence, and after seeing what I did, I'm always a little wary of taking any police reports at face value. I was later to find out, that what his report didn't say, and what the police didn't bother investigating was a lot more revealing than simply the number of images. I'm not suggesting that this is the case for your ex though, I wouldn't know.
In the current climate I would surprised if they didn't take forward any grooming allegations. So it's likely that the evidence just was not strong enough. I'm sorry you are going through this.
Personally I don't believe my partner is guilty of his offence, and after seeing what I did, I'm always a little wary of taking any police reports at face value. I was later to find out, that what his report didn't say, and what the police didn't bother investigating was a lot more revealing than simply the number of images. I'm not suggesting that this is the case for your ex though, I wouldn't know.
In the current climate I would surprised if they didn't take forward any grooming allegations. So it's likely that the evidence just was not strong enough. I'm sorry you are going through this.
It's always hard to know, the details are really important, but I don't think they are neccessarily presented in a fair way. In my partners case, they mentioned how he download x amount of images and indeed that was what he was charged with and convicted of. But there was no mention in court that all of the images came from a single bulk download using P2P, and were deleted soon after. The forensic report never contradicted anything he said, but it was somewhat lacking in detail. The reports did outline the date when the images were downloaded, but it didn't highlight how they were from a single download. And that for me is a key point, it's one thing to claim you were not looking for such material, if it all came from a bulk download, but if there is evidence you have downloaded the content on differet dates - that excuse becomes less plausable. But the Judge didn't mention any of this.
The problem with our system is, it is led by someone who is incentivised to find guilt. As such they will not always look for evidence that will help the defence. They may not for example bother recording the date that the images were deleted, if it was straight after the download. As that does not help the prosecutions case. In my partners case the term "searched for", was so misleadingly used, that I would call it criminal. If you want that sort of foresnics report, you have to pay for it yourself.
The problem with our system is, it is led by someone who is incentivised to find guilt. As such they will not always look for evidence that will help the defence. They may not for example bother recording the date that the images were deleted, if it was straight after the download. As that does not help the prosecutions case. In my partners case the term "searched for", was so misleadingly used, that I would call it criminal. If you want that sort of foresnics report, you have to pay for it yourself.
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