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Notsurewheretogo

Member since
December 2019

89 posts

Posted Thu April 8, 2021 9:07pmReport post

So husband has been officially charged. Communication with a minor and inciting a minor to have sexual communication. This was all with a decoy.

Anyway I have been told that there is a potential that our solicitor can go to the CPS/police and try and get a settlement before court. Has anyone had this?

Also what has peoples outcomes been with this charge? Did your partners plead guilty or not guilty?

I am so so worried about media.

T2021

Member since
December 2020

79 posts

Posted Thu April 8, 2021 10:13pmReport post

Sorry you are going through this. I'm in the same position but still waiting on charges. I've never heard of it being settled out of court

Flossy

Member since
February 2020

84 posts

Posted Thu April 8, 2021 10:19pmReport post

Hi my partner was sentenced last year for communicating with a police decoy and arranging to meet. He was advised to plead guilty and never released on bail, he was sentenced to 2 years in prison and 2 on license. Was it a police decoy your husband chatted with online ? What I've seen on here and other cases it seems it can be a mixed bag with sentencing. Also a good solicitor helps, but it all depends on the judge on the day. Not heard anything about settlements but my partners case and sentence happened very quickly around 2 months after arrest.

Whatwhywhenhow?

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October 2020

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Posted Fri April 9, 2021 1:37amReport post

Hi

My partner was charged with communication and arranging to meet. 2yr sentence so will do half in prison. Like flossy said from arrest to sentencing was only a few months. He was granted bail in between. He did plead guilty. Sorry it might not be the answer you're looking for.
take care of yourself x

Notsurewheretogo

Member since
December 2019

89 posts

Posted Fri April 9, 2021 7:04amReport post

Hi guys,

Thanks for messages!

Apparently according to an ex officer we know who used to deal with this sort of thing you can enter a plea bargain.

Husband had conversation with a decoy and never arranged to meet or sent images there is no other search history and they took 13 devices and all came back clear with no other stuff found so CPS running this with one conversation on KIK.

Which I find hollarious considering that the kik convo this person said they were 12 and you shouldn't be on the app until your 13. We have lots of mitigating circumstances. His mental health, his aspergers and others.

I just don't understand how CPS are running this with very little evidence thinking they will get a win if it went to trial.

Tabs

Member since
November 2019

501 posts

Posted Fri April 9, 2021 7:28amReport post

Hi Notsurewheretogo,

I really don't want to frighten you, and I truly hope that you can do a deal with CPS, but my story is similar, except the stupid man did go to meet. Chatting in an adult chat room, to a vigilante group decoy, was 'stung' and live-streamed. No other illegal stuff found on devices. Was suffering with mental health, and physical health. Meeting random women. I was told by someone close to me, ex detective, it wouldn't go to court - it did! He wouldn't go to prison - he did!
So I'm sorry to say it's best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. It's an awful situation to be in. I still can't see how an adult pretending to be a child, but thinking how best to trap an adult using an adult brain is legal. My husband never pretended to be anyone other than himself....what child would be attracted to a really old man??!!! Whilst all this attention is on taking the 'low hanging fruit' through the justice system, the real dangerous people that need stopping are continuing....in my view it is easy and lazy policing. High numbers of arrest for little or no effort!!
I really hope you get a positive outcome. X

Edited Fri April 9, 2021 7:29am

Tabs

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November 2019

501 posts

Posted Fri April 9, 2021 8:24amReport post

Oh sorry, didn't say that one charge was dropped as he was pleading guilty to the other. So one charge. As he said, he can't deny he was talking to someone who said they were 13, and went to meet her. The 30 odd year old female decoy also phoned him to make sure he was going, twice!
The solicitor felt that going to trial was too risky as he'd lose his guilty plea discount on any sentence if found guilty....The system is broken. X

Flossy

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February 2020

84 posts

Posted Fri April 9, 2021 1:30pmReport post

Totally agree the justice system seems so wrong, police or vigilantes on websites where u are supposed to be over a certain age to join (17 for app my partner was on) themselves pretending to be someone underage to entrap men into having sexy chat with them or meeting up. How is that helping catch dangerous criminals its like they are encouraging people to break the law so they can get an easy arrest. Also most police decoy cases seem to be under 13 so they can get a higher sentence (they’d apparently told my partner they were nearly 13) not condoning what he did sometimes think I’m more angry that he put himself in that situation.

Tabs

Member since
November 2019

501 posts

Posted Fri April 9, 2021 3:12pmReport post

There is no doubt that our men did wrong. They know it. But they didn't go looking for children, on the platforms that children use!!!! To end up in prison seems extreme to me. What is it achieving? Pure punishment for the men and their loved ones. Meanwhile people who mean real harm carry on, as there are not the resources to investigate whilst so much time and money is spent on cases that are delivered to police on a platter!!
Our legal system has broken.

Notsurewheretogo

Member since
December 2019

89 posts

Posted Fri April 9, 2021 9:24pmReport post

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your messages.

Yes is was a decoy lee1969.

Yes our friend told us he would need to plead guilty to something. He has been charged with talking to a minor and inciting a minor into sexual conversation. Our friend told us if they accept plea bargain then there might not be a need to go to court.

That's his main fear is court and then it getting into press.

I'm so scared he is going to prison there doesn't seem to be a lot of people charged with communication charges who are not sent to prison.

Notsurewheretogo

Member since
December 2019

89 posts

Posted Fri April 9, 2021 9:47pmReport post

Hey Lee1969,

Sorry it was a police decoy.

No one thinks he is going to prison including his solicitor but I see it on here constantly I can't think of anything but prison being his only outcome.

I just hate what they are doing to him he was talking about putting himself in front of a train because one silly mistake which is clear it was a mistake is now destroying everything and everyone he loves.

Worrieddaugther

Member since
June 2021

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Posted Fri June 25, 2021 6:17pmReport post

Hello notsurewheretogo

Hope you are ok and is there any update on your husband's case

Vickie

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November 2020

428 posts

Posted Fri July 2, 2021 4:29pmReport post

Hi hun sorry your here

My husband was on kik and he was talking to a under decoy and the charges he had was publishing of a obsense article he got a prison sentence of 15 months and served 7 month,, fine 150 pound and on probation and licensing for 12 months. Cps said in court there was no victim in my husbands case and no requirement for SHPO or SOR so he did not get them it's very mixed bag and depends on the judge on the day all device cam back clear his licence is very tight and has thing that the SHPO could have on it so. But as u can see there are a lot of different outcome a crossed the board not one the same outcome take care and big hugs x x I second what Lee said because our solicitor told us he would not go to prison and he did so all I would say on that is plan for the worse if it does not happen bonus and if it does then its a shock but not as bad as been told he will not go to prison if that makes sense xx

Edited Fri July 2, 2021 4:31pm