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So my friend has got the later with his date in court he is been charged with 5 counts of iioc mainly cat b and cat c and some cat a their was 3 devices where just under 1000s iioc where he said to me that all the devices have been shared between his family and they are charging him for it he's entering an not guilty plea as he genuinely believes he hasn't done it has anyone got any advice or just anything to help me go on do they give prison sentences for cat b and cat c images I'm so lost and confused with it all.
Thanks so much
So my friend has got the later with his date in court he is been charged with 5 counts of iioc mainly cat b and cat c and some cat a their was 3 devices where just under 1000s iioc where he said to me that all the devices have been shared between his family and they are charging him for it he's entering an not guilty plea as he genuinely believes he hasn't done it has anyone got any advice or just anything to help me go on do they give prison sentences for cat b and cat c images I'm so lost and confused with it all.
Thanks so much
Sam Tyler
Before he enters a no guilty plea is he sure that there was no communication ? Any user names that connect him ? When is he due in court. Please ask your friend to make sure he is certain as it will drop in credibility for example if it's magistrates first you either enter guilty/ not guilty / no plea if you enter a guilty plea your credit is 33% / no plea 25 % and then not guilty ( trial ) ..obviously it will go to Crown as there is Cat A and magistrates are not able to deal with it.. as for prison it depends on judge on day know one can ever be certain not even a solicitor .. expect worse / hope for the best.. contact a solicitor ASAP.
I wish you & you friend well x
Before he enters a no guilty plea is he sure that there was no communication ? Any user names that connect him ? When is he due in court. Please ask your friend to make sure he is certain as it will drop in credibility for example if it's magistrates first you either enter guilty/ not guilty / no plea if you enter a guilty plea your credit is 33% / no plea 25 % and then not guilty ( trial ) ..obviously it will go to Crown as there is Cat A and magistrates are not able to deal with it.. as for prison it depends on judge on day know one can ever be certain not even a solicitor .. expect worse / hope for the best.. contact a solicitor ASAP.
I wish you & you friend well x
Becky123
He is sure that he hasn't done it his court date is October as everything was shared he's really confused as to why he's getting blame as during the interview he said that everything was shared he hasn't been in contact with his solicitor yet as he's going to phone Monday with regards to the plea he doesn't want to plead guilty to something he hasn't done but then again does he plaed guilty to get creditable on his sentence when he goes to court he's nervous on what to say
He is sure that he hasn't done it his court date is October as everything was shared he's really confused as to why he's getting blame as during the interview he said that everything was shared he hasn't been in contact with his solicitor yet as he's going to phone Monday with regards to the plea he doesn't want to plead guilty to something he hasn't done but then again does he plaed guilty to get creditable on his sentence when he goes to court he's nervous on what to say
Lee1969
Yeah it's a difficult one do you know the average time it takes for it to go to Crown Court after majerstaies
Yeah it's a difficult one do you know the average time it takes for it to go to Crown Court after majerstaies
Sam Tyler
Now thats a difficult one, hopefully your friend will see what evidence they have asap, then and only then can your friend decide the best avenue to take with solicitors help, if your friend hasn't done it then absolutely don't plead guilty .. did the police take any other devices apart from your friends ?And what are the charges as there's 5 on the charge sheet ? Normally it's 3 cat A,B& C was there any distribution ?
Now thats a difficult one, hopefully your friend will see what evidence they have asap, then and only then can your friend decide the best avenue to take with solicitors help, if your friend hasn't done it then absolutely don't plead guilty .. did the police take any other devices apart from your friends ?And what are the charges as there's 5 on the charge sheet ? Normally it's 3 cat A,B& C was there any distribution ?
Becky1234
They took multiple devices but only 3 came back with iioc on 3 devices 3 counts of possession 1 count of possession prohibited image and 1 count of possession extreme image theirs no count of distribution nor sharing or sending all counts are possession
They took multiple devices but only 3 came back with iioc on 3 devices 3 counts of possession 1 count of possession prohibited image and 1 count of possession extreme image theirs no count of distribution nor sharing or sending all counts are possession
What he is saying doesn't sound right, if shared between family.....
If it was then they indeed would have been arrested too, he would have been arrested down to possession and they would have gathered evidence before the arrest. I would be wary about what they have said because shared between family? Then those who shared them would have been arrested too. They would have investigated internet service addresses, locations of when images downloaded etc, if devices shared there would be evidence of the location images were downloaded so there must be evidence that points to him rather than others using the devices.
If they lived in the same address maybe you could see it happening but then the whole household would have been under suspicion if pleading not guilty, even so if you own devices it is your responsibility to know what is on them....if these family members live in other address that answers it - can't be them as they would have been gotten by the internet IP / investigations. I'm sorry but the story they say does sound rather dodgy :( 1000 images the person I know was found with under 200 but even 1 image is too much......
Person I know pleaded guilty and they were lenient, if you plead guilty and show responsibility/ steps to rehabilitate they will be more leniant than if plead not guilty then found guilty
If it was then they indeed would have been arrested too, he would have been arrested down to possession and they would have gathered evidence before the arrest. I would be wary about what they have said because shared between family? Then those who shared them would have been arrested too. They would have investigated internet service addresses, locations of when images downloaded etc, if devices shared there would be evidence of the location images were downloaded so there must be evidence that points to him rather than others using the devices.
If they lived in the same address maybe you could see it happening but then the whole household would have been under suspicion if pleading not guilty, even so if you own devices it is your responsibility to know what is on them....if these family members live in other address that answers it - can't be them as they would have been gotten by the internet IP / investigations. I'm sorry but the story they say does sound rather dodgy :( 1000 images the person I know was found with under 200 but even 1 image is too much......
Person I know pleaded guilty and they were lenient, if you plead guilty and show responsibility/ steps to rehabilitate they will be more leniant than if plead not guilty then found guilty
dino2828
Hi it is rather dodgey and hard to understand the devices was shared in the same household other than what iv said I really don't know anything else anymore so hard for me to get my head round
Hi it is rather dodgey and hard to understand the devices was shared in the same household other than what iv said I really don't know anything else anymore so hard for me to get my head round
Ah that is confusing, sorry to hear that it does sound super brain scrambling. I remember reading an article online where a husband was the offender but he pleaded not guilty so his wife was also under suspicision and they both had to go in for questioning. It was quite a long article she spoke about the stress and how it affected both of them and he eventually admitted it
Maybe could it be if devices are in his name and password protected? He would need to speak to his solicitor, and get a good one! Someone who specialises in these sort of cases. Common sense would have been the whole household would be under suspicion maybe if he does stick with not guilty they will question the other members more?
Maybe could it be if devices are in his name and password protected? He would need to speak to his solicitor, and get a good one! Someone who specialises in these sort of cases. Common sense would have been the whole household would be under suspicion maybe if he does stick with not guilty they will question the other members more?
dino2828
yeah it's super confusing the devices was password protected but because they was shared the household knew the passwords he has got a solicitor but its not one that specialises in these sort of cases as he's getting it through legal aid just what's worrying me is if he's found guilty after pleading not guilty will that be an automatic prison sentence
yeah it's super confusing the devices was password protected but because they was shared the household knew the passwords he has got a solicitor but its not one that specialises in these sort of cases as he's getting it through legal aid just what's worrying me is if he's found guilty after pleading not guilty will that be an automatic prison sentence