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Rainbow

Member since
January 2019

282 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 7:45amReport post

We are still waiting for the bill from the solicitor. We had legal aid but I assumed that was just to cover court fees and we would still need to pay for the solicitor. We've trying ringing and emailing them but no reply.

And now thinking about things after I have read info on the web, it makes sense now that I don't feel we got the 1:1 treatment. We were constantly chasing her up for answers and she was always elsewhere dealing with other things. Now I'm paranoid that she didn't do enough to help my husband but surely they get the same evidence etc? If we had got 5 expert reports they would have still said the same thing.

Also at court, my husband said the barrister was really good and tried his best. So legal aid or privately it would have been the same outcome right? I just need reassurance as I had no clue we weren't paying for the solicitor ourselves and now I'm worried he was found guilty because the solicitor wasnt dedicated. Please tell me I'm being silly and it would have been the same as I'm reading all sorts on the web. I guess on the plus side we haven't paid out any money.

Jaded

Member since
December 2018

202 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 8:26amReport post

Hi Rainbow,

my first response would be to say you’ll never know. There are so many variables that you couldn’t control in these situations. The choice of solicitor, barrister, Judge, jury members, their understanding and more likely misunderstandings of this crime, their deep rooted beliefs, their emotions....all make a difference to outcomes.

However the key in court would have been your husbands barrister. They represent him in a Crown Court, the solicitor doesn’t. They provide the Barrister with the documents he/she wants. They do the running around but the Barrister analyses the information and delivers their version in court. It is they that applies their expert analyses of the law to the information, not the solicitor. It’s a small comfort that your husband felt that they did their best.

I would refrain from looking back, thinking you could have had a better outcome, in the same way it could have been worse?

Give yourself a huge pat on the back for surviving it, you know you did your best.

Look forward to the future, your energy is needed there.

Jaded

Rainbow

Member since
January 2019

282 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 8:31amReport post

Thanks Jaded. I guess I will always be thinking what if etc as i still feel something could have been different but i guess at the end of the day the evidence was there and can't be changed. I could get 100 reports but would any of them say he didn't deliberately do it.... no they wouldn't. I just wished we knew all this before so we could have tried to get more help for peace of mind. It's a shame people going through this aren't told anything and just expect to sit back and wait. X

Jaded

Member since
December 2018

202 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 8:48amReport post

I know how difficult it is being thrown into this, especially never having been involved in the legal system before. We had some knowledge from our jobs which was helpful in some ways and helped us prepare for the duplicitous behaviour of police and social services. We never, ever thought we’d be on the receiving end of it though.

My husband had legal aid too, he had to contribute to it though. I don’t honestly think we could have had a better outcome in court. The solicitor wasn’t particularly attentive once the Barrister was appointed, it seems to be the way often.

As far as expert reports go the facts of what’s on the computer can only be reported in one way, as in what’s there. It’s the interpretation of how stuff got there is the important thing. Don’t forget once it’s there it’s for the defence to have the burden of proof, to establish innocence. This reverse burden is unlike any other allegation where it is for the prosecution to prove guilt, in these cases it’s for the defence to prove innocence, a very, very hard thing to do. Perhaps the Barrister simply couldn’t do that, prove your husband innocent.

It’s a significant part of your history but it’s not all of your history. I understand how all consuming this is but try not to make it all of your future. Yes it will play a role but not the starring role in your lives.

Best wishes

Jaded x

Jaded

Member since
December 2018

202 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 8:52amReport post

Sorry, forgot to say that at the dismissal of the case costs were made to be paid by the prosecution so my husband had all his contributions returned to him and all court and legal fees were paid by them.

Rainbow

Member since
January 2019

282 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 9:42amReport post

I guess I'm still in denial and trying to blame others. I know he did what he did and will never know why. I'm hoping within time I will get over this but it just seems like a long process. A stupid but serious mistake and a long consequence and conviction.

So your husbands case was dismissed? That's good x although I'm sure after all the suffering you have been through it still doesn't make it easier to move on x

Maria

Member since
September 2018

286 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 10:10amReport post

The court room is a game and solicitors/barristers are almost a bit like actors. You could have done no more. It doesnt matter if you have legal aid or not they will do their job, these are run of the mill normal jobs for them so i guess it doesnt feel like a personal service as you might expect or see on the tv. My husband didnt qualify for legal aid, his solicitor did a good job but he still got a fairly tough sentence considering. You will never know if it could have gone better so there's no point trying to pick it apart. Hopefully you will never be in a situation like this again. You can appeal a sentence but it really is not worth it unless you are certain its disproportionate.

Jaded

Member since
December 2018

202 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 10:31amReport post

Rainbow yes it was dismissed. There followed a professional hearing though with far lower rules about hearing evidence and a lower burden of proof required, a bit like a guess I would say! It’s a public hearing like a court and this is what was reported in the press, no defence material was read out publicly. The press had a field day so it’s been horrific.

Dismissal has made no difference to the damaged reputation and the terrible names we’ve both been called on social media. So I don’t really see myself any differently to anyone here. I completely understand the experiences we are all going through.

Rainbow

Member since
January 2019

282 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 12:37pmReport post

It's not fair. Dismissal yet people still making judgement. Why do people feel the need. Can I ask what the police were trying to convict him of? X

Jaded

Member since
December 2018

202 posts

Posted Sun March 3, 2019 1:53pmReport post

It was an allegation of an image offence.