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my partner was charged with possession of iioc earlier this year in May. He is on the SOR for 5 years and SHPO for also 5. We know he can't go to places like America for those 5 years, but we want to go to Italy for a weekend soon and I'm just wondered would it affect us in any way? It'll be the first time we've been out of the country since he went to court so I'm a bit apprehensive about it all..
thanks
my partner was charged with possession of iioc earlier this year in May. He is on the SOR for 5 years and SHPO for also 5. We know he can't go to places like America for those 5 years, but we want to go to Italy for a weekend soon and I'm just wondered would it affect us in any way? It'll be the first time we've been out of the country since he went to court so I'm a bit apprehensive about it all..
thanks
Hi,
I don't no about Italy I think u should be OK but there is a good chance that even after 5 years u won't be able to go to America or Australia, as they r very funny about people with convictions x
I don't no about Italy I think u should be OK but there is a good chance that even after 5 years u won't be able to go to America or Australia, as they r very funny about people with convictions x
Have a look at the unlock.org website and forum... they have a lot of stuf on holidays and such and try googling travelling there with a criminal record.
Thank you both for the replies
the thought of never being able to travel to US/aus is a bit of a blow as I thought it was just whilst on SOR
does anyone know much about these green notices? Do the police only put those on your passport if they consider you to be a risk? I can't think of anything worse than being stopped at the airport due to his conviction!
the thought of never being able to travel to US/aus is a bit of a blow as I thought it was just whilst on SOR
does anyone know much about these green notices? Do the police only put those on your passport if they consider you to be a risk? I can't think of anything worse than being stopped at the airport due to his conviction!
At the moment travel to Europe is not an issue as we still have freedom of movement, he will have to notify his police officer as per the requirements of the SOR. If he is still on licience (seeing probation) then you can't travel abroad untill the time with probation has been completed.
come late 2022 Europe will be bring in the European travel information and authorisation system, this is an electronic visa and you will have to disclose convictions within the last 10 yrs. at the moment there is still no word if UK citizens will need to use this as it is still being negotiated post Brexit. As part of the application process the EU will check Interpol records and the Schengen information system, as it stands at the moment they will not have access to the police national computer.
on the other side of the coin the UK police pre Brexit would upload the travel information of an offender to the Schengen information system, post Brexit they no longer have access to this system, and the collage of policing website, states that information and procedures of what officers need to do with the information is still being looked at.
sadly with all things Brexit related and with the delay with covid the term watch this space comes to mind
in regards to your other question about American and Australia, if you are only going for a holiday and never have plans to try and live, work full time or study over there then once your partner is off the register and no longer under police management there will be no issue going to these countries. They have no access to the police national computer, the electronic visa (ESTA) you complete online is a self declaration only, if you look at the Unlock website it clearly give examples of people that have convictions for these types of offences, they complete the online visa, tick no to the conviction question go to America have a nice holiday and come back home and do this many times over the years. The only way these countries will find out about your partners conviction is if he was on interpols most wanted or was arrested and charged for an offence in those countries and the authorities did a check with the UK authorities.
hope this helps some
come late 2022 Europe will be bring in the European travel information and authorisation system, this is an electronic visa and you will have to disclose convictions within the last 10 yrs. at the moment there is still no word if UK citizens will need to use this as it is still being negotiated post Brexit. As part of the application process the EU will check Interpol records and the Schengen information system, as it stands at the moment they will not have access to the police national computer.
on the other side of the coin the UK police pre Brexit would upload the travel information of an offender to the Schengen information system, post Brexit they no longer have access to this system, and the collage of policing website, states that information and procedures of what officers need to do with the information is still being looked at.
sadly with all things Brexit related and with the delay with covid the term watch this space comes to mind
in regards to your other question about American and Australia, if you are only going for a holiday and never have plans to try and live, work full time or study over there then once your partner is off the register and no longer under police management there will be no issue going to these countries. They have no access to the police national computer, the electronic visa (ESTA) you complete online is a self declaration only, if you look at the Unlock website it clearly give examples of people that have convictions for these types of offences, they complete the online visa, tick no to the conviction question go to America have a nice holiday and come back home and do this many times over the years. The only way these countries will find out about your partners conviction is if he was on interpols most wanted or was arrested and charged for an offence in those countries and the authorities did a check with the UK authorities.
hope this helps some
We hope to go on holiday to mainland Europe next year. My partner is no longer in probation and the police officer seems ok with it. I worry about us being stopped in the airport but I hope that if it happens it is discreet and we will ha e details of where we are staying and where we plan to go.
I'm gutted about Australia since some of my family are going again in a few years but won't take my partner if I go.
I'm gutted about Australia since some of my family are going again in a few years but won't take my partner if I go.
We haven't booked it yet but we plan to go to Japan next year ...
It's similar in that the disembark card asks you about convictions... They don't have access to the UK database but do with the Interpol system so it's a game of chance really...
I'll be seething if come 2023 thise with convictions cannot travel even within Europe... How do you live a normal life whn you cannot travel anywhere... ?
It's similar in that the disembark card asks you about convictions... They don't have access to the UK database but do with the Interpol system so it's a game of chance really...
I'll be seething if come 2023 thise with convictions cannot travel even within Europe... How do you live a normal life whn you cannot travel anywhere... ?
Thanks everyone for the replies and info. Can I just ask regarding probation... he only had his court date in May... he still sees his probation officer (or has phone calls with her) every so often. Does this mean he's still under probation and can't go away?
Ah ok mine didn't get a suspended sentence just a community order and obviously SOR/SHPO time
does it usually mean however long he is in touch with his prob officer is the amount of time he can't go abroad? I don't remember them saying anything but I'll have to get him to check it
does it usually mean however long he is in touch with his prob officer is the amount of time he can't go abroad? I don't remember them saying anything but I'll have to get him to check it
Hi sashadill
a community order is slitly different, if you look at the information on the unlock website if someone is given a community order then there is normally no restrictions on going abroad as long as it does not interfere with meeting and work hrs that have been arranged, so speak to the probatIon officer that is dealing with your partner
if some one is given a suspended sentence or a prison sentence then when they come under probation management they will be on licience, and one of the normal conditions of any licience is that an offender can't travel overseas or leave mainland GB while the licience is in effect.
a community order is slitly different, if you look at the information on the unlock website if someone is given a community order then there is normally no restrictions on going abroad as long as it does not interfere with meeting and work hrs that have been arranged, so speak to the probatIon officer that is dealing with your partner
if some one is given a suspended sentence or a prison sentence then when they come under probation management they will be on licience, and one of the normal conditions of any licience is that an offender can't travel overseas or leave mainland GB while the licience is in effect.