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Hi there!
just wondered if anyone could give me any advise on an SHPO. After carefully ready over these conditions I noticed that it only says about 'unsupervised contact' without prior approval from SS. Also I have seen another condition stating that 'to not reside, enter or remain in any household with any child under the age of 16.. I wondered if this means the offenders own children? Can anyone advise please?
many thanks in advance x
just wondered if anyone could give me any advise on an SHPO. After carefully ready over these conditions I noticed that it only says about 'unsupervised contact' without prior approval from SS. Also I have seen another condition stating that 'to not reside, enter or remain in any household with any child under the age of 16.. I wondered if this means the offenders own children? Can anyone advise please?
many thanks in advance x
Does this technically mean a child can have supervised contact in the community without the approval of SS?
Hi Lee
yes it does say to live in the same house hold as a child under 16 or to enter, or remain. Without express approval from SS.
I can't remember the lady who posted it on the forum but she waited for SS to come and assess, but they made a mistake because it said 'unsupervised' not supervised so her children could of seen their dad all along with her supervision. I was looking through the SHPO and noticed it said similar apart from that condition about households.
blue x
yes it does say to live in the same house hold as a child under 16 or to enter, or remain. Without express approval from SS.
I can't remember the lady who posted it on the forum but she waited for SS to come and assess, but they made a mistake because it said 'unsupervised' not supervised so her children could of seen their dad all along with her supervision. I was looking through the SHPO and noticed it said similar apart from that condition about households.
blue x
Hi blue82
if your husbands offence Was image and internet related the court of appeal in 2011 in R v Smith ruled the following
Prohibitions on unsupervised contact with children should not be included in the case of those convicted of internet-based offences ‘just in case’ they progress to contact offences. Instead “There must be identifiable risk of contact offences before this kind of prohibition can be justified”;
Therefor the courts made it clear that a prohibition on this subject can't be added "just in case" if there is no identifiable risk the crown court can't go against the ruling of the court of appeal as it takes precedence. It might be worth having a word with your husbands legal team if this situation applies to him
hope this helps
if your husbands offence Was image and internet related the court of appeal in 2011 in R v Smith ruled the following
Prohibitions on unsupervised contact with children should not be included in the case of those convicted of internet-based offences ‘just in case’ they progress to contact offences. Instead “There must be identifiable risk of contact offences before this kind of prohibition can be justified”;
Therefor the courts made it clear that a prohibition on this subject can't be added "just in case" if there is no identifiable risk the crown court can't go against the ruling of the court of appeal as it takes precedence. It might be worth having a word with your husbands legal team if this situation applies to him
hope this helps
Thank you notalone!
That is very good to know x
That is very good to know x
Hi does that court of appeal ruling apply to communication offence, if there was no planning to meet? Thanks
Hi Lee
I had my visit from my allocated social worker today. Two ladies came and they were absolutely lovely, supportive and listened to everything we had to say. She said I should be proud as my children were lovely level headed mature boys. She said the assessment would take upto 35 days and I signed a form to let her contact other agencies (school etc) and we would be able to put a plan together. She wanted other family members involved to support contact too. She was really positive about everything and non judgemental. I felt she really cared about us. Although she said she couldn't say when the children could see their dad. She said she'd keep in touch and ring me as soon as she could update me. I felt so relieved and positive about the situation.
Do you think this sounds positive in your experience Lee?
blue xx
I had my visit from my allocated social worker today. Two ladies came and they were absolutely lovely, supportive and listened to everything we had to say. She said I should be proud as my children were lovely level headed mature boys. She said the assessment would take upto 35 days and I signed a form to let her contact other agencies (school etc) and we would be able to put a plan together. She wanted other family members involved to support contact too. She was really positive about everything and non judgemental. I felt she really cared about us. Although she said she couldn't say when the children could see their dad. She said she'd keep in touch and ring me as soon as she could update me. I felt so relieved and positive about the situation.
Do you think this sounds positive in your experience Lee?
blue xx