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Isabella

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May 2021

19 posts

Posted Mon November 8, 2021 6:15pmReport post

Hi can anyone help me. My autistic son is in prison. He was in Durham but has been moved to Risley In Chesire miles away from us . We are in our 70's and it will be hard to visit. My son is very vulnerable and due to special needs does not view the world like others . He is not going to be in a VP unit there as they don't have them . He has been told to make something up about why he is there but we don't know what to tell him . It is a very violent place according to the Internet.

Any ideas for this problem. He got 3 years and has only done 10 weeks. He is so frightened and depressed. I am worried out of my mind about him . He is very childlike and will not cope. I rang safer Custody but they just said he will keep an eye out. Nothing reassuring at all. My son cries when he rings us . Any advice. Thank you.

Smile through tears

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September 2021

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Posted Mon November 8, 2021 6:40pmReport post

Oh Isabella, how my heart goes out to you both - if i could - id give you a hug - it must be heartbreaking to hear your son cry. Our son is in prison and we have several reasons why we don't visit, but we talk every day and write (we are in our 60s).


Prisoner's family helpline are really good and have helped us several times. You can also ring the prison direct to voice your concerns.

Edited Mon November 8, 2021 6:44pm

Blue82

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January 2020

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Posted Tue November 9, 2021 1:59pmReport post

Hi there

my Heart just broke when I read your post. I am so sorry to hear your son is not coping in prison. My partner was in the same prison and i can assure you if he has been charged with a sex offence, he will be put on the sex offenders wings. People start on the induction wing and then are moved. They normally start off sharing a pad and then are offered a single pad when one becomes available. My partner said he felt quite safe and chose to share as he had a good pad mate. As for violence, from what I've been told it was not overly violent at all. It was mostly inmates kicking off and trashing their cells for attention. As for talking about offences. It is a rule that you don't ask about what others are in for, So I wouldn't worry about that. It is not a nice place, but but there is things that can make it easier. Sending in money so your son can get canteen treats and maybe even some bedding to be more comfortable. My partner took up matchstick model making to keep him busy and he found it very therapeutic. They have phones in their pads now so calling home is easier too. If there's anything I can help with please let me know I can ask my partner about it.

blue xx

Notalone1970

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May 2021

98 posts

Posted Tue November 9, 2021 3:26pmReport post

Hi

You son has a right to sign on to prison rule 43, and if he makes the prison aware of this they have a legle duty to place him on rule 43

rule 43 is protective custody ie vulnerable prisoner, and regardless if they have a vp wing or not if he has made his intentions known to the prison and they fail to act and something was to happen they have breached there duty of care.



a prison can not refuse a persons application to go onto prison rule 43

Notalone1970

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May 2021

98 posts

Posted Tue November 9, 2021 4:48pmReport post

I don't know the answer to that it might be worth given it the prisoners family helpline a call, certainly if he has not asked to go on the rule, upon entry to the new prison the reception staff on seeing his offence on the custody document should from a safe guarding prespective advise that he go on the rule 43.

if they have not done this then they have not followed ther own policies laid out by the MOJ and the prison service on the management of prisoners through reception and on prison transfers.

Smile through tears

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September 2021

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Posted Tue November 9, 2021 9:13pmReport post

I always thought sex offenders were separated from the general prison population. My boy was until he was moved to a specialist prison.

Edited Tue November 9, 2021 9:19pm

Chelsea 1

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June 2021

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Posted Tue November 9, 2021 9:28pmReport post

Hiya Smile.

Hope he is ok ?

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Blue82

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January 2020

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Posted Tue November 9, 2021 11:02pmReport post

Risley has special wings for sex offenders. There is renovations going on there at the mo so it may be a little different. I have spoken to my partner and he has said that it is not violent and there are many others on the wings with autism. He was on wing G and it is safe and he will be ok. There is not a lot of support on offer and everything takes forever, so you will be his main support. He advises he maybe undertakes in something to keep him occupied like art or model making. Have you heard of purple visits? If you can't get to actually visit him, it could be a great way to see him.

blue xx

Isabella

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May 2021

19 posts

Posted Wed November 10, 2021 10:25pmReport post

Thank you all so much for your lovely replies. It helps us so much. I am taking on board all the advice and will ring the family helpline. We have a visit on Saturday and he is looking forward to us going so much its a 2 hour visit which is much better than the 45 mins at his previous place. I did ring the safer Custody the day he arrived and the voice recording said someone would ring back but they never did. I will tell him everything on Saturday regarding keeping himself safe etc. It helps so much to know there are people in the same boat His main problem is boredom. Hoping he gets something to do soon. Can you order the matchstick models? He is quite good at craft stuff. Thank you all again. I will keep on posting

Blue82

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January 2020

95 posts

Posted Wed November 10, 2021 11:09pmReport post

Hi there

my partner says it was bordem that got to him too, and your son can ask PID inmate worker for the hobbies brochure. There will be an order form in the brochure that he can fill in and use his personal spends to buy things. So glad you are getting to visit him, he will be glad to see you in sure. Just keep taking to him and supporting him and he'll be ok.

blue xx

Smile through tears

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