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Just checking, my daughters are having meetings in school with our sw due to children in need plan. Currently these are done just her and my child. Should their be a safeguarding teacher present as well if not am I able to request one?
My eldest daughter has asked for a safeguarding teacher to be present and she has approached her herself and the safeguarding teacher has agreed so we will see what the sw has to say about it. Thanks hun
Yes I see it as one. I'm so proud of my daughter for going to ask her herself as it shows she has requested it herself rather than me demanding it.
Glad the school are supporting your daughter, the children need to see a face they know and feel someone is in their corner in the professional side of this. Do you get much feedback from the SW. I would be asking for feedback after each meeting they have, just my personal need to know it all x
Hi sadandworried,
no I don't get any feedback from these meetings at all, which I find extremely frustrating. I honestly feel like I've done something wrong the way everything has been kept away from me. We have our third cin teams meeting next Tuesday yet I'm still waiting for the minutes on the first 2 and haven't even seen this so called plan they have in place. I'm going to be asking a few questions regarding it on that meeting so I have witnesses of the discussion (2 safeguarding teachers). I have no reason to be left in the dark like this.
no I don't get any feedback from these meetings at all, which I find extremely frustrating. I honestly feel like I've done something wrong the way everything has been kept away from me. We have our third cin teams meeting next Tuesday yet I'm still waiting for the minutes on the first 2 and haven't even seen this so called plan they have in place. I'm going to be asking a few questions regarding it on that meeting so I have witnesses of the discussion (2 safeguarding teachers). I have no reason to be left in the dark like this.
Mumof3girls,
I can imagine, I wouldn't be happy either if I wasn't getting any feed back. Maybe send an email to your sw expressing concerns about the level of open communication and sharing of documents from children's services, also that it is in the best interest of your children if you have information following the visits so you can support them as much as possible at home. I did this an got emails after each visit. Has the SW said why the meeting are taking place in school instead of their home.
Yes absolutely ask in front of the safeguarding teachers. Always ask these things in front of other professionals then they won't fob you off. Get all your questions written down and write down the answers you get so you have it in writting yourself. You have done nothing wrong and you're the most important person involved in helping your children so should know it all.
CIN minutes wise, I had this issue constantly! So you're suppose to get the minutes no later than 10 days after the meeting. I called the family rights group (if you haven't already give them a call they're amazing) to speak about it and then sent an email requesting I receive the documents within children's services correct time frames going forward..didn't work for long but when I sent an email to my SW to say if they continued to be late I would make a formal complaint it worked. Remember although the meeting is lead by the social worker you have a right raise any concerns about what has been written in the plan as they have been known to be very selective about what the write from the meetings. xx
I can imagine, I wouldn't be happy either if I wasn't getting any feed back. Maybe send an email to your sw expressing concerns about the level of open communication and sharing of documents from children's services, also that it is in the best interest of your children if you have information following the visits so you can support them as much as possible at home. I did this an got emails after each visit. Has the SW said why the meeting are taking place in school instead of their home.
Yes absolutely ask in front of the safeguarding teachers. Always ask these things in front of other professionals then they won't fob you off. Get all your questions written down and write down the answers you get so you have it in writting yourself. You have done nothing wrong and you're the most important person involved in helping your children so should know it all.
CIN minutes wise, I had this issue constantly! So you're suppose to get the minutes no later than 10 days after the meeting. I called the family rights group (if you haven't already give them a call they're amazing) to speak about it and then sent an email requesting I receive the documents within children's services correct time frames going forward..didn't work for long but when I sent an email to my SW to say if they continued to be late I would make a formal complaint it worked. Remember although the meeting is lead by the social worker you have a right raise any concerns about what has been written in the plan as they have been known to be very selective about what the write from the meetings. xx
Trouble is I have no idea what is even in the plan to question it. All I ever seem to do is chase the sw for paperwork. I wrote my own safety plan without her asking and she asked for contact numbers of everyone added on it so she could confirm they was happy to follow what I have stated. I gave the numbers the same day last Monday yet none of them have even received a phone call yet. Every meeting with me is asking the same questions over and over again like she's trying to drag it on that bit longer. None of my kids showed any concerns, neither of the schools had any concerns just seems like she's finding another way to show he's a monster. It's so frustrating.
I'd say your next step is write a very clear email to them and like you said already ask them these questions during the CIN. How can they expect you to follow a plan you haven't seen or had. Maybe say the private numbers of families and friends you gave to chdrens service's haven't been used and the individuals would like to know how they're being stored, when they'll be used and how they'll be deleted. I've always found that referring to children's services Vs my actual social workers name helped keep the peace during potentially tricky conversations and helped make sure the SW realised my issue would be taken further when them and not her (obviously she'll then know that her manager would bring it up with her and that's worse than me) If you do decide to call the family rights group they'll be able to let you know time frames and so on, I believe they also have a good section of doc on the website about CIN. I completely understand your frustrations, it's so irritating on top of all the other things you're going through already. Xx
Thank you. I've sent an email and of course no reply. Husband gave her his new mobile number last week and no reply to that either. She seems to not answer calls, texts or emails but expects me to drop everything so she can pop round in half an hours time when she does want to meet. I shall be taking it higher up if I have not received an answer.
it's definitely not child protection. We're currently doing a cin and risk assessment on my husband. We both are pretty much given half an hours notice. I believe pretty much all of my meetings have been this way since child protection was closed.
The cin meetings are booked on the teams meeting but all home visits regarding husbands risk assessments are basically a phone call on the day with about half an hours notice. She also goes to my children's school to see them without my knowledge. I basically find out from my children that she's been and spoke to them. I will definitely bring this up. Thank you both
Yes so far it's just been the once but I'm guessing there will be more.
Yes my 14 year old went and spoke to the safeguarding teacher and requested her to join as for some reason my daughter is under the impression that the sw is changing her answers. I have no idea why she feels this way but I told her if she felt that way she could request her safeguarding teacher to join her. All 3 children attend 2 different schools and i was never notified of her meeting them before hand. Once I know what she can and can't do I can make sure she is following the right procedure it's just difficult to know what that is.
Ok thank you for your help again. You've helped me so much already.