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Chelsea 1

Member since
June 2021

891 posts

Posted Thu February 10, 2022 7:49amReport post

Hiya all.

This has proberly already been answered somewhere if so sorry in advance.

Now hubby has deleted all Social Media etc when he got the knock.

I still have mine but in the future will delete it.

So when he goes on to the SOR etc is he allowed social media or will that be monitored

Thank you xx

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Thu February 10, 2022 8:10amReport post

Anyone on the SOR is banned from Facebook, it is in their terms and conditions of use.

As for the others, I'm not sure that the social media sites themselves prevent them. I've not looked recently. However, it will also depend on any SHPO conditions and how the offender manager interprets them. Some sites could be classed as cloud storage (at a stretch) and those may be banned. Snapchat automatically deletes so that's not keeping your internet history which is something most SHPOs require.

Twitter still hasn't banned porn so someone with a porn addiction may do well to avoid that one.

Personally I think it comes down to what social media they want to use, why they want to use it and whether their offender manager considers it ok and not against any SHPO conditions.

As for whether it will be monitored, 100% expect that. Internet history, text messages, chat apps are almost definitely going to be checked at every visit.

Edited Thu February 10, 2022 8:11am

Chelsea 1

Member since
June 2021

891 posts

Posted Thu February 10, 2022 8:30amReport post

Hiya hun.

Thank you for your reply.

Yes I thought that. Was thinking sometime down the line that me and him could have a Instagram account. Might forget that.

He has deleted Facebook already and did only use Twitter for info and sports but has deleted that also

Xx

Smile through tears

Member since
September 2021

2548 posts

Posted Thu February 10, 2022 12:07pmReport post

Personally I'd steer clear of any social media. It can be brilliant but it has the ability to turn very nasty - very quickly!

i came off fb 18 months ago and hand on heart do not miss it......

Chelsea 1

Member since
June 2021

891 posts

Posted Thu February 10, 2022 6:10pmReport post

If he goes anywhere nr social media etc as my old Nan used to say I will hit him with a wet kipper

Xx

Blackhound

Member since
October 2020

479 posts

Posted Thu February 10, 2022 8:49pmReport post

Is this real? Anyone who is on the SOR is not allowed social media... That's ridiculous...

Like genuinely that's frustrating... Social media can be riddle with illegal stuff... But there's a heck ton of good things on there as well that bring people together... Isolating people from social media is a really horrible ramification of the SOR if this is real ..

Chelsea 1

Member since
June 2021

891 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 10:12amReport post

Hiya.

Yes sounds strange because the likes of social media keeps people in the loop with friends and work collouges.

Maybe because they don't wanna hook up with fellow Sex Offenders etc. Dunno

Xx

SAL

Member since
December 2021

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Posted Fri February 11, 2022 11:25amReport post

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BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

876 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 11:29amReport post

I have been extremely naive to social media, I mean I remember seeing bestiality videos on my homepage on Facebook about 10 years ago and being repulsed but other than that thought it was fairly ok apart from trolling. That was until I saw people on TikTok talking about porn on Twitter and it literally has full blown porn on there. How is that even possible?! So it doesn't surprise me that there is also iioc and CP on there too. I've recently come across an account on TikTok which shows how easy it is for images to be accessed with actual accounts on the app being dedicated to trading images, it's absolutely shocking. The reason I commented on this in the first place is just to share with anyone that has social media to please not post any pics of your kids at all, especially not bathtime or potty related as these are the highest searched for videos. After watching some of the videos on this subject I can categorically say I will never post any pics of my future children online and will share them with trusted individuals privately because it's absolute rife online with people stealing images.

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 12:51pmReport post

BaffledB

Totally agree about parents not putting those kind of pictures on their own social media. I see some of the photos those on my Facebook friends post and want to tell them not to do so because of all this. I'm sure a lot of what parents take / share etc of their own kids could easily fit into cat C images and they are completely unaware and oblivious.

They are now saying that a lot of iioc of teenagers is actually self created, some definitely due to blackmail or other illegal activity. Others by kids themselves sharing stuff with their boyfriend/girlfriend and it then getting out and into the wider internet, sometimes due to revenge porn etc.

There is a big push to try and make the internet safer, the new online safety bill, requiring age verification to access porn sites etc. But there also needs to be more education for the general public and to teenagers themselves.

BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

876 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 12:59pmReport post

I totally agree! I think people are so unaware and some just don't want to think that it would happen to them that they just post without thinking.

As for the teenage part, I absolutely cannot stress the amount of teenagers I see online sharing their own videos and images which should definitely not be online let alone visible to public, there was a 14 year old wearing literal lingerie on a video to suggestive music and I wondered if her parents knew (or cared). I don't know what the answer is.

Smile through tears

Member since
September 2021

2548 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 2:37pmReport post

Really girls - I just find all this absolutely terrifying. It's so so dangerous what our children, teenagers and vulnerable can tap into on social media / innocently getting stuff on their devices and get them into so much life changing trouble.

My goodness why carnt they do more to regulate this mess? I'm sure there must be ways of policing it. I know internet plays a massive part in our lives these days(I'm using it now as I tap this out), but I'd keep my children away from it all for as long as I possibly could.

Edited Fri February 11, 2022 2:39pm

Judith

Member since
June 2021

195 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 2:50pmReport post

Ladies

This is a very informative thread, particularly about the terms and conditions of some social media. My husband had come off social media except a Facebook account he manages on behalf of a community group ( absolutely nothing to do with children). He is checking the ts and cs and will transfer responsibility to another member if necessary. It would be a bit of a shame as he really enjoys it and is good at his role. Interestingly he mentioned the Facebook account to the Police who visited to do the risk assessment after his plea hearing and she didn't make any comment about it.

Thank you all for the information.

mjl73

Member since
August 2019

240 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 7:16pmReport post

Judith, I do find a lot of the police offender managers are lacking in some knowledge. So I'm not surprised that they didn't say anything when your husband mentioned facebook. I did look at Facebook terms and conditions myself and they even have a way to report someone with a sex offence to Facebook and they will close the account themselves, you have to provide evidence such as a news article. The police can also request Facebook close accounts.

As for the rest of the internet, iioc has always been just as little as 3 clicks away. It is scary how easy it is even to accidentally come across some of this stuff. With social media now using your previously interactions to decide what to show you, especially on the likes of Twitter / Instagram etc, you actually have less control over what you see on those platforms now

majestictopaz

Member since
December 2019

499 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 7:38pmReport post

My partner is still on social media, though limited to a few. Police are aware, have his passwords and monitor him. He has spyware from the police on his phone.

He has profiles as private as possible and he will remove if his conviction is found out. Unfortunately social media is both important to us. It is one way for him to connect to his hobbies which are his new coping mechanisms. There is huge trust he won't abuse the social media to trigger reoffending. But to honest he didn't use social media in the first place to offend.

He is mindful of the pages he joined and who he interacts with. The police are ok with him on social media, but will report him if he abuses their trust

Lolamoo73

Member since
November 2020

54 posts

Posted Fri February 11, 2022 10:07pmReport post

My partner was given a suspended sentence last year and still has social media. He deleted it whilst the investigation was taking place but then nothing went in the media thankfully. Everything except Snapchat as goes against his SHPO. His offending manager has allowed it all so we know it's fine.
There's no tracking software in our county currently so they don't track his phone either, he got a new phone and they checked over that before he set it to factory settings but that's literally it. She's been round and chatted to me with my partner, which I wasn't best pleased about as I've avoided all communication with the police since the knock after having PTSD. She asked basic questions about how I felt when he got the knock but I said I felt it was unnecessary to go back over that when we are both working towards recovery now.
He got 200 hours of CS which he started in November and should finish by end of this month. He's doing 30% of the hours online.
He's just got the horizon course to do which is 2 nights a week for 4 months which isn't ideal. Then he has meetings (usually 5 mins) with his probation officer. That's it. Everything else is normal, we live completely normal lives and everyone is none the wiser. Luckily we don't have kids yet and nor does anyone close to us.

Judith

Member since
June 2021

195 posts

Posted Sat February 12, 2022 10:53amReport post

Good morning folks

After reading this thread yesterday my husband did check the terms and conditions of Facebook and confirmed the platform does not allow people on the SOR to use it or belong to it. My husband has now asked another member of the group to manage the site.

When we next see the Police and Social Worker we shall mention this episode as we would not want others to inadvertently run into problems.

Personally I am overjoyed as the less my other half has to do with social media the better. Many thanks to all of you.

Blackhound

Member since
October 2020

479 posts

Posted Sat February 12, 2022 8:17pmReport post

Whilst I agree people need to be present in the world instead of sucked into social media, I don't think it's a fair judge of character and chance for rehab to order the removal of all social media platform from their lives... Lolamoo I'm glad that your partner is still allowed to use social media...

Similar to you, we have no children... But my partner is still RUI ...

Chelsea 1

Member since
June 2021

891 posts

Posted Sun February 13, 2022 3:12pmReport post

Some people use social media etc for family stuff and messenger to keep in touch with family all over the place.

Back to using the phone and text.

Xx