Pre sentencing report - How many visits over how long
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My partner pleaded guilty 2 weeks ago.
His sentencing is in just over 5 weeks away.
He has his first meeting with probation next week.
Over how many weeks do they tend to meet the offender? How close together are the meetings?
There will be 7 weeks between guilty plea and sentencing. If it was delayed, I fear it would take just as long to get a new date, so would really like to avoid this (I say this - having read all the stories of delays and knowing its largely out of my control). I guess I have concern that because there is such a but gap between plea and sentencing that there might be some complacency on the time front (by the time the first meeting has happened, 3 weeks will have passed since the plea hearing).
Any other information much appreciated.
His sentencing is in just over 5 weeks away.
He has his first meeting with probation next week.
Over how many weeks do they tend to meet the offender? How close together are the meetings?
There will be 7 weeks between guilty plea and sentencing. If it was delayed, I fear it would take just as long to get a new date, so would really like to avoid this (I say this - having read all the stories of delays and knowing its largely out of my control). I guess I have concern that because there is such a but gap between plea and sentencing that there might be some complacency on the time front (by the time the first meeting has happened, 3 weeks will have passed since the plea hearing).
Any other information much appreciated.
Perhaps I've used the wrong term for the person - But I'm referring to the person that visits the offender to create the PSR.
He has a meeting with someone next week to begin work on them creating the PSR. The date has been arranged (it will be on a video call).
I'm sure I've read that sometimes people get more than one visit.
He's pleaded guilty (2 weeks ago) .
Had signed SOR.
Trial in 5 weeks.
He has a meeting with someone next week to begin work on them creating the PSR. The date has been arranged (it will be on a video call).
I'm sure I've read that sometimes people get more than one visit.
He's pleaded guilty (2 weeks ago) .
Had signed SOR.
Trial in 5 weeks.
Hi SAL
My OH has just had his PSR, it was one appointment over the phone. Told him what they would be recommending, his sentencing is next week. It's done by the probation service.
the police visor contacted him for a meeting after he signed the register, he's had one meeting with her. She said she would meet him again after sentencing.
our solicitor sent probabtion evidence of all the work my OH has done as the meeting wasn't in person
My OH has just had his PSR, it was one appointment over the phone. Told him what they would be recommending, his sentencing is next week. It's done by the probation service.
the police visor contacted him for a meeting after he signed the register, he's had one meeting with her. She said she would meet him again after sentencing.
our solicitor sent probabtion evidence of all the work my OH has done as the meeting wasn't in person
Is it the police visor that does the PSR or the probation officer?
Should he be expecting a visit both the police visor and probation officer?
Did the solicitor send the information before or after the meeting?
Should he be expecting a visit both the police visor and probation officer?
Did the solicitor send the information before or after the meeting?
SAL,
It's the probation officer that completes the PSR and they will want any evidence of therapy etc from the solicitor, I suspect that it will be after the meeting (it was in our case). The police VISOR officer visits to talk about SOR restrictions, usernames, passwords and equipment with internet access etc. They will visit again after sentencing to discuss any additional restrictions due to SHPO requirements and so on.
It's the probation officer that completes the PSR and they will want any evidence of therapy etc from the solicitor, I suspect that it will be after the meeting (it was in our case). The police VISOR officer visits to talk about SOR restrictions, usernames, passwords and equipment with internet access etc. They will visit again after sentencing to discuss any additional restrictions due to SHPO requirements and so on.
Thank you for your replies.
It really helps me. I'm a bit of a control freak and find it difficult not knowing everything (down to wording - silly I know) that's happening in partners case which is very hard to achieve when I'm not there with him when many of the conversations happen and I'm also not familiar enough with the process to know what questions to ask him.
His solicitor has said evidence regarding therapy etc is down my partner to provide the PO not the solicitor.
He also said his solicitor had said that any character reference would be brought up in the meeting with the PO but I thought this was needed for the court not the PSR?
It really helps me. I'm a bit of a control freak and find it difficult not knowing everything (down to wording - silly I know) that's happening in partners case which is very hard to achieve when I'm not there with him when many of the conversations happen and I'm also not familiar enough with the process to know what questions to ask him.
His solicitor has said evidence regarding therapy etc is down my partner to provide the PO not the solicitor.
He also said his solicitor had said that any character reference would be brought up in the meeting with the PO but I thought this was needed for the court not the PSR?
We aren't on legal aid. I don't have full disclosure.
Has this been everyone else's experience? That the solicitor has submitted it to the barrister to present to the judge?
The solicitor keeps saying they need to see what the PSR says before they decide on anything else that needs to be submitted, but I don't understand why we need to wait. We are 2 weeks away now and I imagine statements and references letters aren't quick to write.
Has this been everyone else's experience? That the solicitor has submitted it to the barrister to present to the judge?
The solicitor keeps saying they need to see what the PSR says before they decide on anything else that needs to be submitted, but I don't understand why we need to wait. We are 2 weeks away now and I imagine statements and references letters aren't quick to write.
We just went ahead and got statements and references anyway and sent them to the solicitor handling our case. I believe that he then passed everything, including reference letters from therapists, psychatrist reports etc. to the barrister that we had chosen from the list provided by the solicitor. Some of the letters were tweaked on the advice of the barrister. It was then down to the barrister as to how this was all used.
I think I also recall that therapist and a Safer Lives report were sent to the Probation Service to help them complete the PSR.
I think I also recall that therapist and a Safer Lives report were sent to the Probation Service to help them complete the PSR.
To add to the thread my partner also submitted a call log of him using the LFF helpline. Doesnt have details of the convo ofc.
Thanks for your input.
I'll pass this onto my partner and hopefully he'll see the benefit to start getting these things together for sentencing.
I'll pass this onto my partner and hopefully he'll see the benefit to start getting these things together for sentencing.
Sentencing is next week. The PO visited 3 weeks ago.
We've still not received the report.
When should we start chasing? Can we chase?
We've still not received the report.
When should we start chasing? Can we chase?
No, nothing yet at all. We are a week away.
So the solicitor can chase? Who do they chase, the PO?
So the solicitor can chase? Who do they chase, the PO?
His solicitor is saying there is nothing that can be done. They have contacted the PO, not sure if anything else can be done?
Thanks for the info on the SHPO.
My partner pretty much said that re chasing them.
My partner pretty much said that re chasing them.
Thanks Lee.
Is the SHPO done by the PO?
Is there a minimum number of days he should receive the PSR before court?
Is the SHPO done by the PO?
Is there a minimum number of days he should receive the PSR before court?
Thanks Lee, who should the solicitor be chasing for the SHPO?
Thanks Lee.
Do you or anyone else know if a SHPO is always drafted for sentencing? Even if it is expected to be custodial?
Do you or anyone else know if a SHPO is always drafted for sentencing? Even if it is expected to be custodial?
The report still hasn't arrived, only a couple of days from sentencing. I'm still hoping it arrives but starting to accept that it might not.
The unknown.
The waiting is so painful.
The unknown.
The waiting is so painful.