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Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Fri March 25, 2022 1:13pmReport post

Could anyone share what to put in character references please?
How long should they be and how many should he aim for? Has anyone found them to be successful?
I've searched the threads and so far come up with relationship to offender, behaviour before/during/after event, financial impact, impact on family.



also accountability statement, again how long and what to include?
I've found to include - accountable for behaviour, steps/work done to address it, remorse, support he has.
unsure whether a reason or an apology or remorse to victims should be mentioned ?



any opinions welcomed

Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Fri March 25, 2022 11:21pmReport post

Thanks Lee. Did you feel like references and accountability statement helped into your case?

Luce

Member since
December 2020

27 posts

Posted Fri March 25, 2022 11:55pmReport post

I agree with lee depends on the solicitor and the judge on the day. My OH wrote a brilliant accountability letter which was disregarded / not submitted and the character statement I wrote was actually used against him and completely misquoted and mis read by a judge who could not have possibly read the whole thing from his conclusion . Tread carefully -,he also had poor representation and this is key as Lee had mentioned before and sometimes you just don't know !

Sadsister22

Member since
February 2022

95 posts

Posted Sat March 26, 2022 12:02amReport post

Hiya

We haven't been made aware that all these things can help. All I know is that the probation officer spoke to him for 1,1/2 hours and they prepared the report for the court. Its probably too late now to get anything over as his on warned list.

I hope this won't go against him.

Daffodil

Member since
March 2022

965 posts

Posted Sat March 26, 2022 6:20amReport post

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GZ

Member since
December 2021

164 posts

Posted Sat March 26, 2022 6:50amReport post

Hi dad sister,

I think you can submit anything to court up to the day before the hearing. They can really help, if you feel like you can have a go at writing one and give it to his solicitor on Monday to be submitted. We had our sentencing last week and the judge commented that he had read my, he said it was very impressive.

Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Sat March 26, 2022 8:22amReport post

GZ do you have any advice what I should include that hasn't already been mentioned?

Luce what would you recommend I don't include/tred carefully with? X

majestictopaz

Member since
December 2019

499 posts

Posted Sat March 26, 2022 9:00amReport post

My partner did his own letter and had four references from myself and friends. He had a rubbish solicitor tbh. Despite my partner submitting his letters in advance the solicitor had not given it to the judge until the day of the hearing. There were also other admin issues and so the sentencing was postponed.

Thankfully the judge did read in the end but they never mentioned the letters at all when giving their views and final statement. However I think they did mention they acknowledge my partner has family and friends support to help with his rehabilitation.

Your first post is pretty much what I wrote in a statement and filled a page. It needs to be matter of fact, little to no emotion. I personally said that I have witnessed my partner be proactive in his own rehabilitation and that I do not condone his actions.

Luce

Member since
December 2020

27 posts

Posted Sat March 26, 2022 3:18pmReport post

Jay Jay I covered all those guidelines above and gave a good unemotional account - possibly it was too long 2 pages. I started with not condoning the crime and impact on family and this was the part that was used to support his punishment. From the sum up I know the judge could not have read it all the good character , work and family life and what he had done since the knock . he had a very favourable pre sentence report and police and probation said no risk and unlikely to reoffend so a shock to get a custodial and ten year register. I wish I could tell you what works and what doesn't but it's a lottery . it's so hard to plan and be prepared for. I see so many cases in the paper now and all with huge varying outcomes. Good luck to you and yours xxx

Sadsister22

Member since
February 2022

95 posts

Posted Sat March 26, 2022 11:53pmReport post

Thank you everyone for your responses. I think we haven't been told by my Brother because he thinks everyone should hate him and not want to help him.

Gz, so pleased your reference helped. I really don't know where to start with writing a supporting statement. I would worry I'd say something wrong and make things worse (if thats possible).

What should I include?

Xx

Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Sun March 27, 2022 1:06pmReport post

Thanks everyone some good advice x

GZ

Member since
December 2021

164 posts

Posted Mon March 28, 2022 8:55pmReport post

I searched this forum for all the really helpful posts and googled it lots on how to set it out. I used this template for it.
don't comment on what you think the sentence should be. Stick to facts and don't make it too emotional.

Who you are

Introduce yourself, say what your job is and include any qualifications you hold.

Your relationship to the person

How do you know the person? How long have you known them? How often do you see or call them?

Your knowledge of the person’s charges

Has the person talked with you about the charges and why they are going to court?How do they feel about what they have done?Are they sorry for what they did?How have they shown that? For example, have they been distressed or upset?Have they gone to counselling?Have they paid for any damage or said sorry to the victim?Has the person suffered any hardship or punishment because of these offences? For example, did they lose their job?Was their reputation damaged?Do they feel disgraced in their community or among family and friendsYour knowledge of what is going on in the person’s lifeWhat do you know of the person’s background and any hardship in their life?Are there any personal problems that may have played a part in what they did? For example, drug or alcohol use, financial issues, mental illness. What are they doing to overcome these problems?Your opinion of the person’s characterWhat is their general character and reputation in the community?What sort of person are they? Is it out of character that this person committed the offence? Why do you think this?Do they have prior convictions? If so, does this affect your opinion of the person?Has the person contributed to their community by doing voluntary work, or had special achievements in their job or schooling, or sporting activities?

Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Mon March 28, 2022 9:21pmReport post

Thanks again GZ I am going to work on it this week x