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Listening to evidence of iioc

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Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Tue April 26, 2022 10:06pmReport post

My partner says that in one of the S.I.N modules it says don't let your partner/family listen to the evidence being described by solicitor etc, no matter how much they think they want to hear it, because they may not be able to get the image out of their heads.
1. has anyone else read this (is it true or does he not want me to hear it?)
2. did anyone hear the evidence being described and how did they cope after?
3. is the description read out in court?

I don't want any surprises in court

x

Cloud

Member since
May 2021

153 posts

Posted Tue April 26, 2022 10:20pmReport post

I asked a very close friend to go to court for sentencing and report back - I was thinking of going but ended up with covid. Very glad I did - more so than having gone myself. He reported back about the types of iioc and ages in the images and also reported back about the dressing down the judge gave my ex. If I'd have just heard the outcome I would have thought he got off pretty lightly. Hearing the reality of what he was doing I stand by the decisions I made from day 1.

majestictopaz

Member since
December 2019

499 posts

Posted Tue April 26, 2022 10:40pmReport post

When I was preparing for disclosure to family I read one of the modules and it does say not to give full details. What I said to family that I don't want to burden them with the details, they just need to know it was very serious and was a range of images and the judge sentenced accordingly.

I did go to the sentencing and I was thrown by the fact they went into detail. Not too graphic, but as said already they state the worst found. It stuck with me for months, especially when I was alone. I have now managed to push it to the back of my head.

I did ask my partner beforehand the gist of the worst, but he just said he can't remember everything he had because it was so much and over ten years on and off. An excuse perhaps, but I think it is fair to consider that not all offenders know the full extent of their offending whether it be denial or genuine lack of awareness.

GZ

Member since
December 2021

164 posts

Posted Wed April 27, 2022 7:41amReport post

I went to the solicitors and had full disclosure, for me I needed this.
In court the prosecution said what evidence there was and asked the judge if he wanted them to read it out but the judge said no as he'd read it, so I wouldn't have heard it here.

BUT social services know it all and during our assessments they have brought it all up and asked me about it. Here it looked better that I knew everything already

Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Wed April 27, 2022 8:21pmReport post

The so for sharing ladies. It's such a hard choice, I'm at solicitors next week and need to decide.
I want to know everything, partner thinks I shouldn't hear details. But I don't want any surprises in court and IF I decide to stay, I need to know what I'm dealing with. But I dwell on things and I know I'll struggle to get it out of my head.
Im assuming the description includes approx age, what they were wearing/showing etc??

Jayjay

Member since
December 2021

695 posts

Posted Fri April 29, 2022 10:23pmReport post

Bump

Judith

Member since
June 2021

195 posts

Posted Fri April 29, 2022 11:24pmReport post

I didn't want to hear the details because, as someone else said, I would have those images in my head the rest of my days. Unfortunately the Criminal justice social worker managed to mention the ages of the children in the images when discussing the pre sentencing report on the phone and even that was too much.

For the same reason I didn't attend the plea hearing or sentencing.

Not everyone is the same and I know that for some full disclosure is key to rebuilding trust.

So sad

Member since
March 2020

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Posted Fri April 29, 2022 11:40pmReport post

To Jayjay

My son was sentenced today. The prosecution started by saying the overall amounts of images and then how many were in each category. They didn't describe the images but the judge did in her summing up and conclusion to her punishment.

She described one of the most serious images along with her reason that a punishment was needed for viewing these images.

It was difficult to hear, even though I had read all the reports previously.

You have to try not to think about it.

Hope you get the clarity you need.

Chelsea 1

Member since
June 2021

891 posts

Posted Fri April 29, 2022 11:50pmReport post

Hiya Sad.

My hubby is up at magistrates on Tuesday.

How many images was your hubby charged with.

My hubby is 23 across all catorgories.

Xx

Smile through tears

Member since
September 2021

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Posted Sat April 30, 2022 6:22amReport post

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So sad

Member since
March 2020

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Posted Sat April 30, 2022 6:59amReport post

Morning Chelsea.

My situation regarded my son. (Lives with me) he was charged with 5 offences of viewing IIOC.

there were over 1000 images! They summarised them as after so many they only take a sample of catagories.

So it was a summary of

1. 100 cat A.

2. 200 cat B

3. 250 cat C.

4. Moving pictures (video)

5. 1 of most extreme.

be prepared for a long day. My son also had to sign the register of notification within 3 days of being at magistrates. He went with solicitor immediately from the magistrates and signed that same day. 1 less thing to worry about getting done in time.

Good luck