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Heart!

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 6:21pmReport post

So today I've had an email from my work place stating I have to attend a welfare meeting this week. I work in education and the Gp have put me on the sick from work while I process everything that has happened. They have told me I have to take any medication I have been prescribed so they can consult the occupational health cansultant to see if there be any side effects that does not allow me to do day to day work. This meeting is between the director and the manager.
They know my partner was arrested as I got the phone call at work but don't know reasoning why. I think I'm going to inform them of this in my meeting.

Has anyone had one of these meetings before? What should I expect? Should I take someone with me?



Any advice welcome.
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Polly Pocket

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Heart!

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 6:54pmReport post

Thank you polly, I will inform them of the situation. However I do not have a union and not a clue how to get one. I have a person who was is ex police force who has said would come with me but just not sure what to expect.

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Heart!

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 7:35pmReport post

Daffodil


Thank you so much! They emailed me today to go for meeting Wednesday. I asked them who would be in this meeting as one of my colleagues partners work for the same company my partner does and I don't want the situation getting leaked out that way. They responded saying it will be the direct and the manager and it will literally take minutes for the meeting, it's just a routine meeting for people with long term sick. I asked if I could bring someone with me as I do not process things well and have to have it explained to me after a meeting normally and they responded saying someone can attend the meeting with me however not be part of any discussion or contribute in any way. There will be minutes taken and sent to me after the meeting.
This is all the information I have.

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Heart!

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 7:42pmReport post

I thought it was all very strange them asking for my medication as the sick note from the doctor states depression and anxiety. They texted message me last week saying hope your well can I please contact them by end of this week and for the next two weeks to keep them up to date with my sickness. I messaged back saying medication don't start working for 4-6 weeks stated by my GP and I have a review this week coming with my GP about my situation so I not further forwards and nothing to update them about. Then I received the email today. It's very strange and I'm so so worried about it all!

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Heart!

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 7:56pmReport post

Thank you so much for all your help!!! I'll keep you posted with what's being said etc

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 8:36pmReport post

To ask to see what medication you take seems very strange to me, surely that's personal......

Just be careful, in my experience companies will try their hardest to find a way of 'letting you go' in a quiet way/making out they're sympathetic........ but really they are only worried about themselves and any possible impact on their business....

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Heart!

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 8:46pmReport post

Thank you, I am going to take a family friend with me who is ex police force as he knows the rights I have etc where as I don't. I will keep you'd updated

Katie28

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 9:52pmReport post

Hi Heart,

I work in the NHS and would imagine the procedures for work absence are very similar to education. By law in the NHS they have to give you 7 days notice of attendance to a "formal" meeting, the 7 days allow you time to appoint a representative be it union/friend etc and the representative can intervene if they feel an injustice is being done. It may be worth checking if you have a sickness and absence policy and making sure they are following all the necessary steps, the policy has to be adhered to by both sides but you are still entitled to patient confidentiality and do not have to disclose too much about your condition, if they have a GP note you only have to confirm what your Gp has signed you off with and do not have to provide evidence of medication etc. I would strongly advise you do seek professional representation as your friend despite their police knowledge may not be qualified with HR knowledge. I hope all goes well otherwise. Xxx

Mum of 3

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Posted Sun May 8, 2022 11:40pmReport post

I had a meeting with my boss regarding sickness (half depression/trauma half medical) and was then referred to occupational health.

It's occupational health who records medication, side effects etc so your boss shouldn't be asking you for this information. Your boss is not medically trained for this.

I found occupational health very helpful and they actually told my head what her legal obligations etc were in my report.

If you're not apart of the union you can sign up at any point - I'd defintely recommend it. ACAS are usually quite helpful too.

Heart!

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Posted Mon May 9, 2022 8:13amReport post

Katie28 And mum of 3

Thank you so much! Everyone's advice has been really helpful. I didn't think they could ask for my medication but again was not 100% sure. I will be looking into it all very deeply and checking policy's and procedures etc..

I will keep you all update with the outcomes etc..

thank you again

Heart!

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Posted Mon May 9, 2022 8:39amReport post

After reading our safeguarding policy over and over again this is what it states:

From 31 August 2018, staff and volunteers in childcare settings that are not based on domestic premises are not required to notify their line manager if anyone in their household (including family members, lodgers, partners etc.) has any relevant convictions, cautions, court orders, reprimands or warnings or has been barred from, or had registration refused or cancelled in relation to any childcare provision or have had orders made in relation to care of their children



Am i right in thinking I do not have to disclose my current situation? Should I still do it? Would they be interested if I do with this policy? I'm a little confused now.

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Heart!

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Posted Wed May 11, 2022 10:51amReport post

Todays the day I have my work meeting. Nervous is on a whole new level! I am going to disclose my current situation to them at the beginning of the meeting but ask for it to be only the direct that knows no one else as the manager is a bit of a gossipy and I don't trust she wouldn't say anything.
nervous nervous nervous just want to scream. Not slept, not managed to eat.

Upset mum

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Posted Wed May 11, 2022 2:58pmReport post

Hi Heart

Just wanted to check in on you to see how you are after your meeting today, I hope it was ok x

dino2828

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Posted Wed May 11, 2022 3:12pmReport post

I don't think you need to disclose the reason you are off



The reason has already been confirmed by the sick note!! Seriously I was off about a week when I found a family member had done it and I just said personal reasons I did not want my Manager finding out something about the family so personal.

Your job being education I don't know on that BUT again I would have thought it the same sort of thing it is not like it would show on your DBS check so why should they know something personal?



Edit ah replied too late but yeah we have return to works and they ask if on any medication it is just standard procedure. You can even respond not on any meds as signed off sick first maybe the GP would start meds later. If you are on meds you just disclose it and if it is anti depressants then well that is the reason signed off work (depression is a reason in itself - no one has to explain why they are depressed!) It is just a tick box question try not to think too much into that one and I hope it went well. They have to stick by confidentially laws

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Heart!

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Posted Wed May 11, 2022 4:14pmReport post

Thank you all for all your support with this meeting. I had my meeting today and it went so well I was worried over nothing. I began the meeting and asked to speak to my directed in private as did not want the manager knowing (she is a gossip). Myself the director and my family friend came with me for the private chat. I began it saying this is confidential and I don't want it to go no further after this conversation not to the manager or to the other staff at the setting. I informed her my partner got arrested and he was arrested for child sex offence online. She said I'm so sorry. I went onto telling her that our relationship was on hold and I had removed him from my social media to be safe. Before I could tell her the full story about his bail and now not on bail she gave me a hug and said you didn't have to tell me but I thank you that you have and we are here to support you. So left it at that.
we went back into the meeting with the manager and they basically just asked me about how I was feeling regarding my depression, anxiety. They asked me what medication I was on so I informed them and they noted it down. Asked if I knew a return date. Asked how my GP appointment been going. Informed me when I return to work that I can go back part time or full time, gradually go back and even cut my hours down during the day. They want me to update them weekly with how my feelings and throughts are either via phone call, text message or email. To be honestly it couldn't have gone smoother. I think taking someone with me was the right choice as he documented everything and so did my manager it made it all look official and knew what I was talking about. (Even know I had no clue and was a bag of nerves).
I can't thank you all for the support you have gave me with this meeting. I'm glad it's over and done with and something positive has happened even if it was only a good meeting.

Upset mum

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Posted Wed May 11, 2022 4:17pmReport post

Heart

So glad to hear it went better than you thought it would

Our minds are our own worst enemy as we overthink what will happen etc

It's great to here you work place is giving you the support you need

Just try to be kind to yourself and reach out to us on here xx

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Heart!

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Posted Wed May 11, 2022 4:29pmReport post

Yes definitely they said I will be getting my minutes before end of the day tomorrow.
I honestly feel like a big weight has been lifted today and actually smiled I achieved it. Think I was more nervous as a lot of people around me said I'd get the sack or something if I had contact with my partner but in actual fact work didn't care. It's good they stated the law in their safeguarding policy as well.
thank you all again!

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