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My partner pleaded guilty. There were no press but this isn't to say it couldn't happen - I have seen news reports of not guilty pleas. They read the charge out and I imagine they'd read all charges out as the defendant could say for example he would guilty of one thing and not the other.
It was over quickly for my partner and a date for the trial was set.
I chose not to attend any of the court dates, but if I had I'd have made an effort to enter and leave separately and take measures to be less viable. For me I feel the emotional journey is so hard, I wanted to minimise exposing myself to any other external pressures that would effect my wellbeing.
It was over quickly for my partner and a date for the trial was set.
I chose not to attend any of the court dates, but if I had I'd have made an effort to enter and leave separately and take measures to be less viable. For me I feel the emotional journey is so hard, I wanted to minimise exposing myself to any other external pressures that would effect my wellbeing.
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Hiya.
We are through the other end now and just awaiting the visor / meetings to start.
Magistrates was a very quick do all over within 20 minutes. They read his charges which he pleaded guilty to. Was given the 3 days to sign on the SOR which he did.
Crown court was 1 month on and was over within 40 minutes.
No media anywhere. It's been now 2 weeks and still no media. Trust me I check everyday.
We are through the other end now and just awaiting the visor / meetings to start.
Magistrates was a very quick do all over within 20 minutes. They read his charges which he pleaded guilty to. Was given the 3 days to sign on the SOR which he did.
Crown court was 1 month on and was over within 40 minutes.
No media anywhere. It's been now 2 weeks and still no media. Trust me I check everyday.
I'm confident there will be away to find out the court room and time, hopefully someone will comment and answer this.
Other than the charge I don't think you'll find anymore information out. Could you perhaps drive him, make sure he takes the precautions as he leaves the car. This is what I'd thought when I'd considered going to court.
I think if you really want to understand more, I'd suggest getting full disclosure - I didn't get it and was left to read the newspapers and still have so many questions and still don't know what the truth is.
I do understand you not wanting to minimise it. Although I know no one in this forum intends to or condones the behaviour, when I come here so often, I enter a little bubble where I forget our the majority of society feel about these crimes.
Other than the charge I don't think you'll find anymore information out. Could you perhaps drive him, make sure he takes the precautions as he leaves the car. This is what I'd thought when I'd considered going to court.
I think if you really want to understand more, I'd suggest getting full disclosure - I didn't get it and was left to read the newspapers and still have so many questions and still don't know what the truth is.
I do understand you not wanting to minimise it. Although I know no one in this forum intends to or condones the behaviour, when I come here so often, I enter a little bubble where I forget our the majority of society feel about these crimes.
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Daffodil, that's good to know, thank you
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Hi,
I was in court with my husband a few weeks back. It has taken me this long to really recover from a unbelievable and horrific process.
My husband pleaded not guilty, 1 device which was a shared computer with images. Our case has been going on for 4 years.
Areived at court. Barrister advised him to plead guilty to avoid a custodial. I asked hubby again, did you do it, he said absolutely not. I believe him but no idea where the images came from. Continued with the he not guilty. The following day a camera was mentioned which we said we had never owned. It didn't have indecent images on and bearing in mind we are talking about images from 2014!!! Anyway basically the barrister (ours) said we had lied and if hubby didn't plead guilty he would be guaranteed a custodial sentence. I was furious and said that was unacceptable, to plead guilty when you aren't. The barrister said the jury will find him guilty as you can't prove who did download the images.
He subsequently pleaded guilty as he did not want to go to prison...obviously. He goes back for sentencing in a few weeks.
I absolutely can't believe the legal system, we have spent £14,000 on legal fees to end up at this point. I wish now he hadn't pleaded guilty but he was bullied and pressurised. The barrister put the fear of God in him, the usher kept coming and saying you need to come back in court. The biggest decision of our lives and it is like that.
I know people may think I am a deluded wife who has been fooled by her husband but I am not. 4 years we have waited for the trial to clear his name and it ends like this. He recently attempted suicide, as it is likely he will lose his job and possibly our home.
I have absolutely no respect for the judicial system anymore.
I was in court with my husband a few weeks back. It has taken me this long to really recover from a unbelievable and horrific process.
My husband pleaded not guilty, 1 device which was a shared computer with images. Our case has been going on for 4 years.
Areived at court. Barrister advised him to plead guilty to avoid a custodial. I asked hubby again, did you do it, he said absolutely not. I believe him but no idea where the images came from. Continued with the he not guilty. The following day a camera was mentioned which we said we had never owned. It didn't have indecent images on and bearing in mind we are talking about images from 2014!!! Anyway basically the barrister (ours) said we had lied and if hubby didn't plead guilty he would be guaranteed a custodial sentence. I was furious and said that was unacceptable, to plead guilty when you aren't. The barrister said the jury will find him guilty as you can't prove who did download the images.
He subsequently pleaded guilty as he did not want to go to prison...obviously. He goes back for sentencing in a few weeks.
I absolutely can't believe the legal system, we have spent £14,000 on legal fees to end up at this point. I wish now he hadn't pleaded guilty but he was bullied and pressurised. The barrister put the fear of God in him, the usher kept coming and saying you need to come back in court. The biggest decision of our lives and it is like that.
I know people may think I am a deluded wife who has been fooled by her husband but I am not. 4 years we have waited for the trial to clear his name and it ends like this. He recently attempted suicide, as it is likely he will lose his job and possibly our home.
I have absolutely no respect for the judicial system anymore.
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Hi, we had magistrates a few weeks ago, pleaded guilty to making IIOC A-C.
No media in court thankfully, solicitor advised that if there was a cameraman outside of court to act normal, walk out separately, not to cover face or look suspicious. TBF he looked like a professional in his full suit compared to the football strips of some of the other 'criminals' in there :)
he also said that unless they were in magistrates court room for plea, they were unable to report on it.
praying for no media at sentencing which is going to be done in magistrates all being well x
No media in court thankfully, solicitor advised that if there was a cameraman outside of court to act normal, walk out separately, not to cover face or look suspicious. TBF he looked like a professional in his full suit compared to the football strips of some of the other 'criminals' in there :)
he also said that unless they were in magistrates court room for plea, they were unable to report on it.
praying for no media at sentencing which is going to be done in magistrates all being well x
Oh and they read the charges out with descriptions of the IIOC and ages which I was not prepared for.
Thanks Jayjay, that's useful information. I didn't know the reportershad to be in the court room to report on it. I thought maybe they got transcripts or info from the court and lurked outside with photographers.
So the details of the images were read out at the plea hearing?
So the details of the images were read out at the plea hearing?
Hey Bitterbean,
We've been magistrates and crown to plead not guilty and there was no media - thank the Lord, I've Googled him God knows how many times over the last few months to check and nothing. Maybe when pleading not guilty they don't because of the stigma? Probably just wishful thinking on my part but I can't recall ever seeing anyone be reported on for pleading not guilty unless it's a high profile case. Fingers crossed for you lovely xx
We've been magistrates and crown to plead not guilty and there was no media - thank the Lord, I've Googled him God knows how many times over the last few months to check and nothing. Maybe when pleading not guilty they don't because of the stigma? Probably just wishful thinking on my part but I can't recall ever seeing anyone be reported on for pleading not guilty unless it's a high profile case. Fingers crossed for you lovely xx
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Yeah it was plea hearing they read out the worst descriptions and ages x
No worries! Surely they have to be careful when reporting stuff like this because it's dangerous and damaging, I actually don't think even when guilty it should be reported on. No trial date at the moment unfortunately, we've still got to submit a defence statement (which comes after pleading not guilty) I've looked on the CPS website for guidance on what to include and it's really helpful so take a look before your solicitor draws yours up to make sure all points are included and you're happy with it before the solicitor submits it. I am (probably pointlessly) hoping that the CPS will decide to drop the case upon reviewing the case (which they do periodically whilst awaiting trial) because there is no solid evidence linking my partner to the crimes, it's all very flimsy but we'll just have to see what happens. It's an absolute nightmare isn't it, it's on my mind everyday and I can't make plans and think if it all goes wrong I'm not sure I can stay. Absolute definition of limbo!
Hey Baffled I remember reading your story before and it definitely sounded like a bit dodgy in terms of solid eveidence. Fingers crossed for you it gets dropped and you can put this nightmare behind you.
I hope the same for me, but I think I'm clutching at straws and I am not convinced our relationship will survive the ordeal whatever wayit turns out - I feel it has broken us although he still seems blithely unaware of how the relationship is hanging by a thread.
I hope the same for me, but I think I'm clutching at straws and I am not convinced our relationship will survive the ordeal whatever wayit turns out - I feel it has broken us although he still seems blithely unaware of how the relationship is hanging by a thread.
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Ahh Bitterbean, I feel so sad to hear the pain you are going through and how you are blaming yourself at times for not being able to spot what was going on.
Done and dusted, things settled two years down the line and I still feel pangs of guilt.
your certainly not on your own on this one :(
Done and dusted, things settled two years down the line and I still feel pangs of guilt.
your certainly not on your own on this one :(
Ahh Bitterbean, I feel so sad to hear the pain you are going through and how you are blaming yourself at times for not being able to spot what was going on.
Done and dusted, things settled (come August) two years down the line and I still feel pangs of guilt. Why didn't we question certain niggles/concerns with our son.
your certainly not on your own on this one :(
Done and dusted, things settled (come August) two years down the line and I still feel pangs of guilt. Why didn't we question certain niggles/concerns with our son.
your certainly not on your own on this one :(
Thanks Smile, this forum is a godsend, and reminds me that I'm not alone, this is such a lonely place to be you feel you can't confide in anyone to get some comfort, and if you do you are not guaranteed of comfort you could get shunned or worse. I have always thought of myself as an honest, upfront person who is usually the one providing support to others, and I can't believe I find myself in this place where not o ly do I need support but can't get it from friends and family but also feel that this situation will shatter their image of me and they will see me as someone who is evil, complicit or just plain stupid. Old me would have looked at me now and said I was gullible, or stupid, I think. Now I am on the other side I can see how much more complex everything is.
Thank you - me too! I also feel like I am hopelessy clutching at straws but at this stage if I focus on the negative then I may as well throw the towel in now. There's so many twists and turns. It's definitely impacted our relationship too and I feel odd to be continuing knowing there's a chance in a year or whenever the trial happens I may walk away, I feel like a fake, it's all very weird. I hope you manage to either work through it or make a new life filled with happiness for yourself!
Also in relation to what you said to another user, I feel exactly the same. I'm so compassionate, reasonable and open minded if anyone had come to me with this before I went through it I would've supported them and not told a soul but I don't feel like there's anyone I can do that with even though I have good friends, I may have but I choose not to gamble it. It's a very hard and lonely journey to go through so I'm very grateful for this forum. Sending you lots of love xx
Also in relation to what you said to another user, I feel exactly the same. I'm so compassionate, reasonable and open minded if anyone had come to me with this before I went through it I would've supported them and not told a soul but I don't feel like there's anyone I can do that with even though I have good friends, I may have but I choose not to gamble it. It's a very hard and lonely journey to go through so I'm very grateful for this forum. Sending you lots of love xx