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Bettyboo65

Member since
June 2022

337 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 12:07amReport post

Long shot but does anyone have anything that was dismissed by the CPS or no further action and maybe a caution given ? xx

Rick7516

Member since
May 2022

78 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 8:53amReport post

There are few NFAs on here but not many like Lee said it depends on the evidence ie no real hard evidence then could be NFA not seen any with just a caution but I did look online and a few sites say there are more cautions than ever before due to the number of cases but I don't know 100 percent if that's true

BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

874 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 10:00amReport post

The only NFA I've seen in terms of communication wasn't through here but online and it was due to the vigilante group asking leading questions and basically enticing so the CPS dropped it. I think it's very difficult to get communication dropped as there is often lots of ways they can link the suspect to the crime. In my case there is very little evidence but we're still here! In regards to iioc I guess it depends on the evidence again. It's very much luck of the draw and having good legal representation in regards to outcome.

Newlady

Member since
April 2021

644 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 11:14amReport post

Intresting, because my person didn't start the two chars he had, the police decoy did and they keot on until he answered and it went downhill really fast, as they started describing themselves sexually and the idiot got hooked in. If I'm honest I still regard this as cheating and he still did the crime, but he was in a bad state emotionally at the time, his dad died, lockdiwn etc. I know this doesn't make it right but I know he's telling the truth as he's given me full disclosure to evidence etc and it make a good case for him hopefully

BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

874 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 11:57amReport post

I think it's harder to question the Police in terms of entrapment because it's really hard to prove it and they're quite clever about how they do it. In cases like this, from the research I've done it seems to be acceptable for Police to sometimes message first as long as it isn't in a sexual manner.

Newlady

Member since
April 2021

644 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 2:01pmReport post

Yeah, it's bloody not right like. He still did it but the way they do it is unfair x

Newlady

Member since
April 2021

644 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 2:16pmReport post

It actually was the police who started sexual talk, but urs like Lee said, vita when the age is brought into it thars it, everyone's life as they know it is over. Such a shame over 2 conversations but it is what it is now. They are trying to slap a grooming charge on him and there was no pics no plans to meet, no drawing in convo, no Google search and also a pic, which he sent to me, and isn't even connected to chat. Thars not right surely

BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

874 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 3:16pmReport post

If they started the sexual chat I would really get that looked into, entrapment isn't a thing but abuse of process is and if vigilantes aren't allowed to do it then the Police shouldn't either. I think it's really difficult with these crimes because some men genuinely believe that it was someone on the other end messing about but like Lee said once age is mentioned it's a crime - and that is really unfortunate and unfair for those who were unaware of the law & didn't truly believe they were speaking to a child (decoy)

Newlady

Member since
April 2021

644 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 3:26pmReport post

Yep, anything to get a conviction even the barrister laughed, it's exactly why they are holding the evidence they know they hvnt enough, well barrester thinks so anyway and how dare he contest them, which he did in second interview, when solicitor asked if they had proof of these charges they said no comment. That was in Nov last year, still waiting on evidence

Rick7516

Member since
May 2022

78 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 3:44pmReport post

The police will employ any tactics to get a conviction they will say things that make them sound like there trying to help you just to get the information they want I would say they probably do employ civilians as decoys as I can't see them having enough officers to do things like that all the time .... the more convictions they get them more ticks in the box they have ....all my friends that were in the police have left and they said the same thing they left mostly because they didn't like the direction they were being told to go in it didn't sit right with them anymore

BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

874 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 3:45pmReport post

I think the exact same thing Lee! The conversations don't seem right in a lot of these cases. The decoy spoken about in my case also had a profile pic (described as) a woman wearing very little (can't say exactly what in case I'm identified on here) with no face - it's very off in my opinion.

BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

874 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 6:27pmReport post

It is shocking. I was on Tinder for a while and there were many catfishes on there. I've also learnt recently that it is also possible to fake "Live" pics on certain apps by using an app which is easily accessible which makes this whole thing even more worrying - in certain cases. Xx

Newlady

Member since
April 2021

644 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 6:36pmReport post

Yes Lee last year, 3 charges 1 attempted sexual communication with a 14-16byear old, 2rd grooming which he contested and 3rd the image which he also contested, that was at second interview last Nov, they were supposed to send evidence across to solicitors but nothing all this time, barrister has been diwn to station abd to police complaints, they sent out a date for court last Friday, still no evidence.

Newlady

Member since
April 2021

644 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 7:37pmReport post

Basically, they just don't care Lee xx

Rick7516

Member since
May 2022

78 posts

Posted Tue June 21, 2022 9:56pmReport post

No your right newlady they just don't care ...if evidence can't be proven beyond all reasonable doubt as the law requires then no conviction can be given ... they really will use any tactic they can to get a conviction