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Blackhound

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October 2020

479 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 8:54amReport post

Has anyone ever mad am announcement on social media about what is happening and explained why your person did what they did i.e. depressed alcohol groomed sexially assualted in the past... Also how they've improved... Changed turned their life around..

Upset mum

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June 2020

2359 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 9:44amReport post

Morning Blackhound

I would avoid anything to do with media sites but that is my own opinion x

No matter how you would try to explain people will judge no matter what and I think it would do you more harm than good to be honest

Hugs sent xx

I hope you are both ok after the trauma over the last few days x

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Upset mum

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Bitterbean

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December 2021

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Posted Sun June 26, 2022 11:46amReport post

Blackhound,

Some migbt consider it brave, others foolhardy, the problem with social media and the Internet is once its out there, that's it. If it backfires then you can't ever really delete it. Best not when you can't be sure of the reaction.

Blackhound

Member since
October 2020

479 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 2:08pmReport post

Thanks both... It's out there in the local paper anyway which is hate... So that was my rationale behind it...

Dawn14

Member since
June 2021

472 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 3:03pmReport post

Hi Blackhound,

I am so sorry with everything u r going through, having been there on the social media back lash I wouldn't, they will get bored eventually, ours only lasted a week but we were luck in it was just posted online they never turned up at my husbands or my house x please please if things keep happening ring the police x

Blackhound

Member since
October 2020

479 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 3:43pmReport post

Heya Dawn, thanks for the advice... It helps solidify that I only need to tell people who ask... These are viscous people as well so...

BaffledB

Member since
July 2021

874 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 5:09pmReport post

Hey Blackhound,

I'm sorry you're going through a tough time! I guess it depends who you have on social media and how willing they are to listen. From their perspective they have tarred him with a brush and don't want him around them so if you are going to do it you would need to aim it to disparage their current thoughts and feelings.

I plan to use my social media platform to try and help the way people see these sorts of crimes (in the cases where attraction isn't relevant which seems to be the majority here?) however I am yet to think of ways to do it which won't attract a backlash, it will need to be gentle and well thought out. It's very difficult as everyone seems to see these crimes as always belonging to *the word we hate the most* and society has already deemed there is no cure for that. Unfortunately, until more and more people are touched by these crimes I feel as though it's a losing battle.

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Bitterbean

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December 2021

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Posted Sun June 26, 2022 5:31pmReport post

BaffledB if the number being arrested caries on at the same rate eventually there will be more people on the SOR than there are not, and it will become meaningless. I suspect we are already at the point where nearly everyone knows someone who is on the SOR, they just don't know that they are...

Edited Sun June 26, 2022 5:31pm

BaffledB

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July 2021

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Posted Sun June 26, 2022 5:48pmReport post

Very true! I can't say I know of anyone on the SOR but I'm sure they're probably under the radar, as we all know our partners/sons are probably the absolute last person you would expect to be in this position so that'll apply to others too.

Bitterbean

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December 2021

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Posted Sun June 26, 2022 6:48pmReport post

BaffledB, as they say, you don't know what you don't know.

Bettyboo65

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June 2022

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Posted Sun June 26, 2022 7:04pmReport post

Baffled B, I am in total agreement with your comments on getting it out there that people who commit these crimes rarely actually have attraction to minors and may have their own troubled pasts and demons which they have never spoke of/dealt with in the past and which leads to them commiting such crimes without real common sense kicking in and instead finding it a release for the mental anguish they feel inside. They need help and support and to understand the extent of their actions and help to better deal with their own issues, not to be demonised and treated as scum by media and general public xx

Bettyboo65

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June 2022

337 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 7:09pmReport post

My person suffered sexual abuse as a child which involved older children and he never spoke of it until after the knock, he knew it wasn't right but he felt so bad he buried it and never felt right telling anyone. He has a counsellor whom he has opened up to but the abuse he had as a child has led him down this path as I understand such abuse in early years can totally re-wire a childs brain :( xx

Dawn14

Member since
June 2021

472 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 7:47pmReport post

Hi Blackhound,

Trust me I no they were sending my 16 year old screen shots of wat they think should happen to her dad, I then had to clean her up as she self harmed and worried about her dad, as we are not allowed to live together, then or now but he is allowed sleep overs thanks to this brilliant forum xx I no it is hard trust me I do but it will blow over, it might be good if u could move but then y should u

SAL

Member since
December 2021

890 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 8:20pmReport post

I too have wondered how social media could be used to bring a wider understanding of these issues both in the complexities and as BaffledB has said many times before, awareness of the actual laws.

There is a huge amount to understand and unpick from common perceptions, I feel that the conversation needs to be quite wide to not appear to be defending any behaviour or appear to be making excuses. It's important to remember that not all pedophiles will act on their attraction and not all people that commit offences (primary or secondary) are attracted to children. Taking term pedophile (because not all actually offend and they can't help who they are attracted to, but can control what they act on) and looking at it scientifically may take some of the emotion out of the situations from both perspectives. But that's a really big ask for many people to get their head around, but unless as a society we are willling to lean into these issues children will continue to be at risk from people attracted to children or not.

Creating a safe space for those that are unfortunate enough to be wired to be attracted to children is critical to their wellbeing and to reduce the likely hood they will act on it and commit an offence. Likewise great understanding on the chemical hits that occur when watch porn/ engaging in sexual risky behaviour I think would make people more aware of how easy it is to be found in one of these life changing situations when it is so freely available and inadvertently cause harm to children, themselves and loved ones around them. There is a huge conversation and openness about sex (all kinds), porn and how the Internet is real and can have real life consequences.



In regards to the OP, I'd thought whether I'd do this myself if it ever came out but whilst I'd want to, to raise awareness and knowledge, I'd also need to consider my own and my families wellbeing. I concluded that I'd probably end up working through friends that were important to me and talking to them directly, anyone that wasn't on that list for me to consider "important" enough to tell, I'd let them form their own judgement, but do think I'd end up coming off social media or at least whittling friends and followers down to those I've spoken to and trust, unfortunately I could imagine images/ screenshots could be shared very easily - Whether that be where we live, decide to go on holiday or even if we start having a "good life" (holidays, new house etc) many people will not want or believe this should be allowed and will be vindictive in their behaviour - Any image of him, him and I together and knowledge of our life together online would likely make us a target and vulnerable.

Edit: The other thing that needs to be discussed more openly is the impact on the lives for those around offenders. The discussion on All In The Mind, painted a good picture of the impact this crime has on completely innocent family members and what Blackhound has experienced is another example of innocent peoples lives being effected.

Edited Sun June 26, 2022 8:38pm

BECCY

Member since
May 2021

61 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 10:14pmReport post

I don't know if it would work but I worry that your post could be shared, screenshot and shared thousands of times drawing more attention to you. I think you said the news wasn't on line so that will fade away but a social media post is there forever.

I'm really sorry for waht you're going through. Xx

Polly Pocket

Member since
May 2022

440 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 11:23pmReport post

I agree with what's been said about it being screen shot and shared. You may never get a good fresh start if that happened.

I would protect yourselves as much as possible, you are already subject to so much right now xxx stay safe xx

Blackhound

Member since
October 2020

479 posts

Posted Sun June 26, 2022 11:43pmReport post

I too worry about it being screenshotted and shared.

Baffled B, I love your approach if wanting to use social to educate people... I personally work in the type of industry that plans and shares tough information already...

It's rrally something I feel strongly about, so I have been looking for industry specific jobs on stop it now / Lucy faithful so that I can apply and help... My strategy for spreading this info would to come up with a campaign name, flesh it out using this to generate regular social media statistics on the number of people who committing this crime every month, breaking it down. Get used to people hearing about it through stats... The more people realise they might someone who commited this crime the less there is taboo it might become.

Then integrate personal stories in there, quotes an snippets and infographics from perps and victims i.e. children and families, of easily digestible material that explains the ramifications and the reasons why people commit this crime.

There also needs to be an email list built with regular advice on things like legislation that effects this area... I know each case is unique but I packs of downloadable information on for example the steps involved... What are First interviews, second interviews, what is magistrates court like and what happens are the first magistrates court appearance. .

This is a taboo subject and until fantastic organisations like Lucy Faithful generate more regular content on this crime and gentley lifts the Vail on the ability to talk about this, it won't changes. Media as we all know is everything and the power of social media and email marketing is even more powerful as a tool for education and communication...

Smile through tears

Member since
September 2021

2492 posts

Posted Mon June 27, 2022 4:53amReport post

fB, social media - get rid.

I did two years ago and do I miss it NO!!

I use this forum, ebay and Amazon, message my family and that's it! fB easily turns into hassle and I really do not need anymore of that in my life!

Blackhound

Member since
October 2020

479 posts

Posted Mon June 27, 2022 7:00amReport post

I use FB quite a lot as a teaching aland sharing mechanism as I admin a few groups which has greatly benefitted my mental health... It's a bit of a shame for me personally... I will be getting my account back in a few weeks when it's died down...

But I'm gonna amp all my settings up the max

Blackhound

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October 2020

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Posted Mon June 27, 2022 7:00amReport post

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Smile through tears

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September 2021

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Posted Mon June 27, 2022 7:50amReport post

That's another point I'm not that savvy on setting stuff up/security etc. Another reason why I don't bother x