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He plead not guilty and despite admitting to everything in the beginning is now saying everything else that was found on devices didn't belong to him, they belong to a deceased relative. A convenient excuse when the person isn't here to defend themselves. Also they would have had to go to his place to look at the stuff, all very unlikely... think he is just desperate and clutching at straws...
Trial date is set but its another 18 months away! It already took 21 months to get to a plea.....
So fed up
Trial date is set but its another 18 months away! It already took 21 months to get to a plea.....
So fed up
Oh concerned, I am so sorry you are being dragged through this.
The evidence would have to be very strong to prove it was the deceased relative, very sad situation if the relative is innocent as it would cause all sorts of upset for their family too and as you say they can't defend themselves.
Keep going hun you are stronger then you think. Take some time out for you x
The evidence would have to be very strong to prove it was the deceased relative, very sad situation if the relative is innocent as it would cause all sorts of upset for their family too and as you say they can't defend themselves.
Keep going hun you are stronger then you think. Take some time out for you x
Thank you both for your replies x
It was a mixture of devices, a laptop that 100% belonged to him then a USB that was in his home but he is saying came from the relatives house and another laptop that had previously belonged to the relative but had been in his home for over 2 years since they passed.
He is even denying the stuff that was on his laptop as he is saying that the relative had access to it when they visited. This is the same relative that has babysat our children on many occasion. It's so awful. Thing is, he was always at the relatives house so it seems a pretty poor defence because it could be argued he had access to their devices all the time aswell.
The relative has never triggered the system or been arrested.
It wasn't any of the above devices that triggered his arrest, it was his mobile as he was using KIk messenger but he deleted the app so apparently they couldn't retrieve anything off it?!
It's so confusing and so draining. All his contact is currently being supervised by me and it seems we've got another year and a half of this. Sigh.
It was a mixture of devices, a laptop that 100% belonged to him then a USB that was in his home but he is saying came from the relatives house and another laptop that had previously belonged to the relative but had been in his home for over 2 years since they passed.
He is even denying the stuff that was on his laptop as he is saying that the relative had access to it when they visited. This is the same relative that has babysat our children on many occasion. It's so awful. Thing is, he was always at the relatives house so it seems a pretty poor defence because it could be argued he had access to their devices all the time aswell.
The relative has never triggered the system or been arrested.
It wasn't any of the above devices that triggered his arrest, it was his mobile as he was using KIk messenger but he deleted the app so apparently they couldn't retrieve anything off it?!
It's so confusing and so draining. All his contact is currently being supervised by me and it seems we've got another year and a half of this. Sigh.
Thanks Lee, you always have such good knowledge!
It just makes him look worse. Blaming someone else is bad enough but a deceased relative, I feel like that's a whole new level.
It just makes him look worse. Blaming someone else is bad enough but a deceased relative, I feel like that's a whole new level.
He has been very cocky each time he has come out of a conversation with both the solicitor and the barrister. I was really surprised by his attitude, I was even more shocked when he said he was pleading not guilty. He had already admitted to it. He even admitted to enjoying it. It is so frustrating that we have to wait so long now to get to the verdict. He is quite happy carrying on and it feels like we are all left, struggling to deal with everything knowing everything he has admitted to and now this new story he is spinning. Having known the relative well I'm saddened that they have now been tarred with this brush by such a desperate attempt.
But also these people looked after my children many, many times. Does this kind of offence run in families?! What have my poor children been exposed to, if this stuff was being done in both properties by two different people or in one by two different people?!
Blaming the relative has opened a whole can of worms that are painful and hard to understand.
He isn't accepting what he has done and owning that, apologising and trying to better himself... he is just trying to pass the blame.
I asked him why the relative hadn't triggered the system if they had been doing it aswell, the same way he did. He couldn't answer that.
His argument that they had access to his property and came over a lot... Well he had keys to their property and he was always over there so it's swings and roundabouts isn't it.
It is going to be an ugly trial, that's for sure.
But also these people looked after my children many, many times. Does this kind of offence run in families?! What have my poor children been exposed to, if this stuff was being done in both properties by two different people or in one by two different people?!
Blaming the relative has opened a whole can of worms that are painful and hard to understand.
He isn't accepting what he has done and owning that, apologising and trying to better himself... he is just trying to pass the blame.
I asked him why the relative hadn't triggered the system if they had been doing it aswell, the same way he did. He couldn't answer that.
His argument that they had access to his property and came over a lot... Well he had keys to their property and he was always over there so it's swings and roundabouts isn't it.
It is going to be an ugly trial, that's for sure.
Hi Concerned,
That's awful! Just because he's pleaded not guilty and thinks everyone will buy that excuse doesn't mean they will. I've seen cases where the evidence was clear as day yet the person pleaded not guilty (how they thought they could get away with it I'm not sure) and sure enough when the trial comes around they get found guilty. He'll also have to explain why he admitted it first time round and then changed his mind. All these things a jury is likely to see through. He will have to answer all of these irregularities in the defence statement and then when cross examined in court could slip up if it's not the truth. It's very sticky ground telling untruths and you're likely to trip yourself up! I hope you get some closure from this soon xx
That's awful! Just because he's pleaded not guilty and thinks everyone will buy that excuse doesn't mean they will. I've seen cases where the evidence was clear as day yet the person pleaded not guilty (how they thought they could get away with it I'm not sure) and sure enough when the trial comes around they get found guilty. He'll also have to explain why he admitted it first time round and then changed his mind. All these things a jury is likely to see through. He will have to answer all of these irregularities in the defence statement and then when cross examined in court could slip up if it's not the truth. It's very sticky ground telling untruths and you're likely to trip yourself up! I hope you get some closure from this soon xx
Thank you BaffledB! I agree, telling untruths is a dangerous game. I can see his brain whirring when I've called him out on stuff so I've no idea how he is going to hold the line in court... but I guess we will see, when it finally comes around x