My DBS check and getting told to leave.
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Hi All,
I haven't been on here for awhile, but really need some support atm. I recently got a new job in a children's nursery working in the kitchen. Obviously needed an enhanced DBS, applied for this and the wait started. Workplace were happy for me to start, escorted everywhere and not left with children by myself.
DBS finally arrives yesterday....no criminal activity on my part. However on the notes part everything about my husband (charged with iioc)and as hes on the barred list, means i can no longer work there and told to go immediately.
I have supported my husband and look what happens... Im the one thats being punished, how is that fair!!!
The shame, disappointment, hurt anger just wont go away. It seems to me that aslong as im associated with him im just as bad as him.
Mata x
I haven't been on here for awhile, but really need some support atm. I recently got a new job in a children's nursery working in the kitchen. Obviously needed an enhanced DBS, applied for this and the wait started. Workplace were happy for me to start, escorted everywhere and not left with children by myself.
DBS finally arrives yesterday....no criminal activity on my part. However on the notes part everything about my husband (charged with iioc)and as hes on the barred list, means i can no longer work there and told to go immediately.
I have supported my husband and look what happens... Im the one thats being punished, how is that fair!!!
The shame, disappointment, hurt anger just wont go away. It seems to me that aslong as im associated with him im just as bad as him.
Mata x
Hi,
im so sorry this has happened, as you were newly employed it'll be hard as you won't have employment rights-but this isn't allowed. It is against the law to be dismissed due to association, it changed in 2018. So his convictions should not affect your employment, especially if you are working in a kitchen and don't have contact with children.
I'd contact ACAS for advice xx
im so sorry this has happened, as you were newly employed it'll be hard as you won't have employment rights-but this isn't allowed. It is against the law to be dismissed due to association, it changed in 2018. So his convictions should not affect your employment, especially if you are working in a kitchen and don't have contact with children.
I'd contact ACAS for advice xx
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I'm so sorry this has happened to you. How does this happen? I was thinking it may be due to marriage but obviously Smile said it's on hers due to her son. Who adds this information and realistically, why is it relevant? It seems to be there for shaming purposes, I don't understand the practical reasoning in regards to Safeguarding but maybe I am being a bit dim....
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Thank you all for your help and support, I'm definitely going to contact the DBS service and see if this can be removed.
We are damned if we don't and damed if we do, as I said to my hb earlier, you get all the help and support and I get f all....
I really appreciate the support
Mata x
We are damned if we don't and damed if we do, as I said to my hb earlier, you get all the help and support and I get f all....
I really appreciate the support
Mata x
It's really stupid. Anyone who works in settings with children (and healthcare as we've seen this also affects) wouldn't ever take a partner or relative into their workplace regardless of a crime like this happening or not but especially not after charges/sentencing, I can't see a reason why photos or anything would be taken home of kids or anything like that so it literally just shows they're basically saying you're guilty by association which is ridiculous! I better check what's on mine as I need a DBS and it wouldn't surprise me if the little t*sspot in charge had requested it to be added to mine.
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Mata, does he live at your address, or are you just married?
I haven't got round to a divorce yet with everything else that's gone on, but my OH is currently in prison and won't live with me on release. Your post has made me concerned that it may come up on mine when it gets renewed even though we don't live together, I had read that being married is not flagged on the DBS even if enhanced, its about your address?
I haven't got round to a divorce yet with everything else that's gone on, but my OH is currently in prison and won't live with me on release. Your post has made me concerned that it may come up on mine when it gets renewed even though we don't live together, I had read that being married is not flagged on the DBS even if enhanced, its about your address?
I absolutely hate this. This is so unfair.
We are professionals and the DBS is ours!!
I'm so sorry you were discriminated in this way - you are innocent. The barred by association rule only applies to domestic settings, child minders etc. However organisations seem to be able to find loopholes.
I would strongly suggest you join a union going forwards.
The fact we are forced to carry this crime around with us on our backs is soul destroying.
X
We are professionals and the DBS is ours!!
I'm so sorry you were discriminated in this way - you are innocent. The barred by association rule only applies to domestic settings, child minders etc. However organisations seem to be able to find loopholes.
I would strongly suggest you join a union going forwards.
The fact we are forced to carry this crime around with us on our backs is soul destroying.
X
Wowza. So sorry this happened.
So I am in a work position VERY SIMILAR you you, but mine are a few years older...
Work had to be made aware of our situation as the local authority had to disclose and they had meetings with the county safeguarding officer about me. They obviously deemed me low risk as I had seperated from my person, however - I was openly told that if I stayed with him it would make things 'difficult' - I was told by my union. (I will add - the biggest union for people of my career!) that I should definitely leave him because he is a bad man and will look bad on me!! That was their advice.
I've been made to feel like I have no choice but to pick BETWEEN my person and my job. It's an impossible choice. I have been doing this job for ten years and on a very lovely wage, I also love it, and I'm bloody good at it! There's no way I can support me and my baby son without it.
im sorry you feel even worse than this. I cannot believe their outdated attitudes!!
also - in terms of getting a new job in this profession - when and what do you need to disclose?! You're now in the situation i have nightmares about being in - im so sorry xx
maybe we should team up and open our own setting for kiddies? Hehe!
So I am in a work position VERY SIMILAR you you, but mine are a few years older...
Work had to be made aware of our situation as the local authority had to disclose and they had meetings with the county safeguarding officer about me. They obviously deemed me low risk as I had seperated from my person, however - I was openly told that if I stayed with him it would make things 'difficult' - I was told by my union. (I will add - the biggest union for people of my career!) that I should definitely leave him because he is a bad man and will look bad on me!! That was their advice.
I've been made to feel like I have no choice but to pick BETWEEN my person and my job. It's an impossible choice. I have been doing this job for ten years and on a very lovely wage, I also love it, and I'm bloody good at it! There's no way I can support me and my baby son without it.
im sorry you feel even worse than this. I cannot believe their outdated attitudes!!
also - in terms of getting a new job in this profession - when and what do you need to disclose?! You're now in the situation i have nightmares about being in - im so sorry xx
maybe we should team up and open our own setting for kiddies? Hehe!
Hi all,
Thankyou for all for your kind words and support, have really needed it over the last couple of days.
I spoke with DBS and asked them why i was not notified that the additional information was going to be put on MY dbs and they said that they don't do that??
I have now put in a dispute and will have to wait and see what happens. I have been told that as we do live together, he COULD coerce me into doing/saying things. The manager of the nursery also referred to the case of the nursery in Plymouth back in 2009!!
What doesnt make sense either is that the nursery could see my DBS online and nothing appeared, it was only brought to light when I was asked to show my copy??
Will let you know how i get on, fingers crossed.
Mata x
Thankyou for all for your kind words and support, have really needed it over the last couple of days.
I spoke with DBS and asked them why i was not notified that the additional information was going to be put on MY dbs and they said that they don't do that??
I have now put in a dispute and will have to wait and see what happens. I have been told that as we do live together, he COULD coerce me into doing/saying things. The manager of the nursery also referred to the case of the nursery in Plymouth back in 2009!!
What doesnt make sense either is that the nursery could see my DBS online and nothing appeared, it was only brought to light when I was asked to show my copy??
Will let you know how i get on, fingers crossed.
Mata x
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Is this information added to a dbs once they've been sentenced? Charged? Or under investigation?
I don't live there but this has made me worry about those that do. He is currently under investigation. Will it be on the DBS for family members that live with him at this point?
I don't live there but this has made me worry about those that do. He is currently under investigation. Will it be on the DBS for family members that live with him at this point?
Hi Emma
I believe it only says once convicted and based on the address. Technically when under investigation it is innocent until proven guilty. Not sure if giving a guilty plea will go on the DBS before sentencing tho.
I believe it only says once convicted and based on the address. Technically when under investigation it is innocent until proven guilty. Not sure if giving a guilty plea will go on the DBS before sentencing tho.
Thank you for your reply majestic! It's not something I'd even thought about.