CIN plan, risk assesments, MAPPA and SS
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Hello, long time lurker, first time to poster!
My story in brief, partner of 11 years was arrested in Feb 2019 for possession of iioc. He admitted it immediately to police and confesse. He has a severe pornography addiction. SS did an asessement and closed case advising that if he moves home contact should be supervised. We began to reconnect after about 6 months and after around 2 years and alot of therapy, he moved back home. In May 2022 it finally went to court. 3 cat A, 15 cat B and 231 cat C. (He also had a charge of posessing 8 extreme images) he has no idea what all the cat C pics were or the extreme ones. He didnt search for them. The recomendation in pre-sentencing report was community order but the judge decided to ignore all mitigating factors and gave him a harsher sentence of 6 months suspended for 2 yrs, 7 years on Shpo and SOR.
After not hearing from them for over 3 years SS phoned me and said they would remove my 15 year old daughter within 48 hours unless he stopped all contact. He slept in his car for a while and now lives elsewhere.
It took them from June until August to finish the new assesment. They messed me about one minute saying they would recommend supervised contact and my daughter got excited to see him but then changed their mind and said no contact. CiN plan was set up to work towards contact. He has done stop so course and therapy but they have said he needs to complete 'offence based work' and referred me to circles. Probation said he is medium risk on MAPPA. So this is how SS made their no contact decision. I spoke to probation and they said this is bc he had access to a potential victim at the time. They said it could move to low after the work is complete.
My daughter has adhd and poor mental health and he was an important support in our life so its been v hard without this support as she has been sxhool refusing since ss got involved and i am keen to reestablish contact with him and get her life back to normal where this is safe. We dont plan to move back in together until she is 18 due to the disclosure requirememts with SOR and we want her to have mates over and not tell their parents he is a sex offender.
My first question is, from reading The Knock website i have seen that we could get an independent risk assesment done. Does anyone have experience of that? Is it worth it or will it be same view as probation and SS?
My other question is about data sharing with SS. I self referred to mental health service to just get some support and this mental health service asked if they could share all my letters with ss. I said no bc i feel so violated already and i dont understand why details of every single appointment i have should be shared with ss. I have told ss i am seeking support and i dont mind them confirming this. But surely unless they have concerns about my daughter's welfare there is no need for them to know every letter i recieve. It was just a further invasion of privacy that i just couldnt take. I burst into tears as i felt like i needed to get this mental health support for me and i was very triggered by their suggestion to comment to SS on how i am engaging with them! I wasnt ordered to do get memtal health support, it was my decision to refer myself to get emotional support after all. Part of the reason i am traumatised is bc of SS and manner in which they have treated me! But now i am so worried ss will hold my consent refusal against me. Have I done the right thing or should ss be allowed to see all my appointment letters? I am ruminating on it and worrying!
Thanks for any info anyone can give me x
My story in brief, partner of 11 years was arrested in Feb 2019 for possession of iioc. He admitted it immediately to police and confesse. He has a severe pornography addiction. SS did an asessement and closed case advising that if he moves home contact should be supervised. We began to reconnect after about 6 months and after around 2 years and alot of therapy, he moved back home. In May 2022 it finally went to court. 3 cat A, 15 cat B and 231 cat C. (He also had a charge of posessing 8 extreme images) he has no idea what all the cat C pics were or the extreme ones. He didnt search for them. The recomendation in pre-sentencing report was community order but the judge decided to ignore all mitigating factors and gave him a harsher sentence of 6 months suspended for 2 yrs, 7 years on Shpo and SOR.
After not hearing from them for over 3 years SS phoned me and said they would remove my 15 year old daughter within 48 hours unless he stopped all contact. He slept in his car for a while and now lives elsewhere.
It took them from June until August to finish the new assesment. They messed me about one minute saying they would recommend supervised contact and my daughter got excited to see him but then changed their mind and said no contact. CiN plan was set up to work towards contact. He has done stop so course and therapy but they have said he needs to complete 'offence based work' and referred me to circles. Probation said he is medium risk on MAPPA. So this is how SS made their no contact decision. I spoke to probation and they said this is bc he had access to a potential victim at the time. They said it could move to low after the work is complete.
My daughter has adhd and poor mental health and he was an important support in our life so its been v hard without this support as she has been sxhool refusing since ss got involved and i am keen to reestablish contact with him and get her life back to normal where this is safe. We dont plan to move back in together until she is 18 due to the disclosure requirememts with SOR and we want her to have mates over and not tell their parents he is a sex offender.
My first question is, from reading The Knock website i have seen that we could get an independent risk assesment done. Does anyone have experience of that? Is it worth it or will it be same view as probation and SS?
My other question is about data sharing with SS. I self referred to mental health service to just get some support and this mental health service asked if they could share all my letters with ss. I said no bc i feel so violated already and i dont understand why details of every single appointment i have should be shared with ss. I have told ss i am seeking support and i dont mind them confirming this. But surely unless they have concerns about my daughter's welfare there is no need for them to know every letter i recieve. It was just a further invasion of privacy that i just couldnt take. I burst into tears as i felt like i needed to get this mental health support for me and i was very triggered by their suggestion to comment to SS on how i am engaging with them! I wasnt ordered to do get memtal health support, it was my decision to refer myself to get emotional support after all. Part of the reason i am traumatised is bc of SS and manner in which they have treated me! But now i am so worried ss will hold my consent refusal against me. Have I done the right thing or should ss be allowed to see all my appointment letters? I am ruminating on it and worrying!
Thanks for any info anyone can give me x
Thanks for replying Lee I appreciate it! I think SS have been the worst part of this ordeal for me. I start shaking whenever i speak to them!
To be clear, my partner doesn't have anything on his shpo preventing him from living with us as such. We just dont want to live together because the police said if any children regularly visit the property and he lives there, they will need to disclose to the parents that he is on the register and we didnt want that. We also didn't want to say to my daughter that she cannot have friends over. So we thought living apart would work best for us.
I think i will see how quickly things move along and if we keep being messed around i will look at getting the risk assesmemt done, if I can aford it! X
To be clear, my partner doesn't have anything on his shpo preventing him from living with us as such. We just dont want to live together because the police said if any children regularly visit the property and he lives there, they will need to disclose to the parents that he is on the register and we didnt want that. We also didn't want to say to my daughter that she cannot have friends over. So we thought living apart would work best for us.
I think i will see how quickly things move along and if we keep being messed around i will look at getting the risk assesmemt done, if I can aford it! X