Licensing conditions set by PO
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My person had said there may be licensing conditions set by his PO beyond that on the SHPO.
Is this true/possible? Has anyone had any? What were the additional conditions?
Is this true/possible? Has anyone had any? What were the additional conditions?
Hello,
License conditions mirror (in my experience) the shpo. They shouldn't be excessive.
There are 10-12 standard conditions e.g. Good behaviour, approved premise, associations etc. Then they can add as many as they like however they should be proportional!
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License conditions mirror (in my experience) the shpo. They shouldn't be excessive.
There are 10-12 standard conditions e.g. Good behaviour, approved premise, associations etc. Then they can add as many as they like however they should be proportional!
X
He doesn't have anything about appdived premises or good behaviour.
He had 7 points. One being no unsupervised contact with anyone under 18 and the others are just related to devices and social media.
I hadn't heard of additional conditions being added by the PO and do t know if this actually happens and if it does, what kind of thing.
He had 7 points. One being no unsupervised contact with anyone under 18 and the others are just related to devices and social media.
I hadn't heard of additional conditions being added by the PO and do t know if this actually happens and if it does, what kind of thing.
Standard Licence Conditions
All Parole Board release decisions will contain a set of standard licence conditions, which are as follows:
An individual must:
(a) be of good behaviour and not behave in a way which undermines the purpose of the licence period;
(b) not commit any offence;
(c) keep in touch with the supervising officer in accordance with instructions given by the supervising officer;
(d) receive visits from the supervising officer in accordance with instructions given by the supervising officer;
(e) reside permanently at an address approved by the supervising officer and obtain the prior permission of the supervising officer for any stay of one or more nights at a different address;
(f) not undertake work, or a particular type of work, unless it is approved by the supervising officer and notify the supervising officer in advance of any proposal to undertake work or a particular type of work; and
(g) not travel outside the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man except with the prior permission of your supervising officer or for the purposes of immigration deportation or removal.
The Supervising Officer is the Community Offender Manager.
All Parole Board release decisions will contain a set of standard licence conditions, which are as follows:
An individual must:
(a) be of good behaviour and not behave in a way which undermines the purpose of the licence period;
(b) not commit any offence;
(c) keep in touch with the supervising officer in accordance with instructions given by the supervising officer;
(d) receive visits from the supervising officer in accordance with instructions given by the supervising officer;
(e) reside permanently at an address approved by the supervising officer and obtain the prior permission of the supervising officer for any stay of one or more nights at a different address;
(f) not undertake work, or a particular type of work, unless it is approved by the supervising officer and notify the supervising officer in advance of any proposal to undertake work or a particular type of work; and
(g) not travel outside the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man except with the prior permission of your supervising officer or for the purposes of immigration deportation or removal.
The Supervising Officer is the Community Offender Manager.
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The above are the conditions added to every licence upon release - I am assuming you mean when they are released on licence.
The additional conditions are set by probation and as mentioned mirror the shpo.
Licence and shpo are separate but the shpo is used to inform the licence.
The additional conditions are set by probation and as mentioned mirror the shpo.
Licence and shpo are separate but the shpo is used to inform the licence.
Thank you. That makes sense. I think I was getting confused by SHPO and other licensing conditions. So the additional licensing conditions will end when he's completed the term of his sentence?
Yes. Once he finishes his licence he will only have the SHPO conditions. We've found probation to be ott but they are young and inexperienced. Only 10 months to go!
Thank you.
What have they done thats OTT?
I'm so heavily focusing on getting to the end of the prison sentence. I just about get myself into a place where I can see the light, then I remember probation and what we are both holding on for might not be possible if they decided to be heavy handed.
What have they done thats OTT?
I'm so heavily focusing on getting to the end of the prison sentence. I just about get myself into a place where I can see the light, then I remember probation and what we are both holding on for might not be possible if they decided to be heavy handed.
Sorry. I don't mean to worry you.
Our probation officer is just risk adverse. By this I mean won't make a decision with making social care referrals (two so far which have both not made any threshold) and not allowing him to get a job without full disclosure - regardless of where or what the job is. I feel there is no chance for him to get a job until off licence. He doesn't want to disclose and ruin potential long term employment.
It's a huge relief for prison to be over and be able to rebuild. I feel this process can really begin once of licence.
Our probation officer is just risk adverse. By this I mean won't make a decision with making social care referrals (two so far which have both not made any threshold) and not allowing him to get a job without full disclosure - regardless of where or what the job is. I feel there is no chance for him to get a job until off licence. He doesn't want to disclose and ruin potential long term employment.
It's a huge relief for prison to be over and be able to rebuild. I feel this process can really begin once of licence.
Sarah,
That sounds like my persons first PO and he's not even on license, never has been. Some of them really do have a god complex xxx
Sal, I'd recommend that your person asks for his license conditions and a breakdown of acceptable employment to be emailed to him by his PO once assigned xxx
That sounds like my persons first PO and he's not even on license, never has been. Some of them really do have a god complex xxx
Sal, I'd recommend that your person asks for his license conditions and a breakdown of acceptable employment to be emailed to him by his PO once assigned xxx
Thanks for responding both of you.
I still have 12 months to wait until he's out. I just really hope he can live with me. We don't have children but seeing stories about premises not being approved worries me.
He's decided he'll only work for himself and is trying to think of ideas as to how he can make money - I really hope they don't make it hard work.
The unknowns are so difficult.
I still have 12 months to wait until he's out. I just really hope he can live with me. We don't have children but seeing stories about premises not being approved worries me.
He's decided he'll only work for himself and is trying to think of ideas as to how he can make money - I really hope they don't make it hard work.
The unknowns are so difficult.
I know how you feel Sal, I don’t have children with my partner either but am worried even if we get through the prison sentence we then still have to deal with will they or won’t they let us live together as the house is near a school. I have read that it’s for local police to decide if they want to let someone live in the area who is on the SOR as they can’t let them live too close to another person on the SOR. My OH is terrified of ending up homeless as me, my parents and his parents all live right by schools. But as far as I'm aware they can't stop you, they just might let the school know somoene on the register lives nearby. It is confusing as you hear different stories!
So do you not get license conditions until you’re about to be released?
So do you not get license conditions until you’re about to be released?
From what I have seen, it varies great from one PO to another as to where they allow people to live. I spoke to Unlock who said the police have no say over this, only the PO.
A friend I've made at the prison visits lives on a road with school at either end and her premise has been approved. I'm in the middle of moving and my new house has shared access. I so want him to be able to live with me after, but the shared access concerns me.
The SHPO is know. Probation conditions appear to be standard - Sarah kindly posted them. These are applied for the duration of the remainder of his sentence. My person got 40 months. He'll server 20 inside. 20 out, on those 20 he'll have to follow the license conditions. He has a life SHPO.
A friend I've made at the prison visits lives on a road with school at either end and her premise has been approved. I'm in the middle of moving and my new house has shared access. I so want him to be able to live with me after, but the shared access concerns me.
The SHPO is know. Probation conditions appear to be standard - Sarah kindly posted them. These are applied for the duration of the remainder of his sentence. My person got 40 months. He'll server 20 inside. 20 out, on those 20 he'll have to follow the license conditions. He has a life SHPO.