Has anyone else's person had a psychiatric report?
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My OH had one and I'm not sure how I feel about the findings.
It focuses a lot on the behaviours surrounding the offence but completely ignores OH's chatroom addiction and makes it sound as though my OH was ONLY interested in underage people, which wasn't the case as he chatted to anyone and everyone unfortunately, in an obsessive addictive way.
Dr describes him as having P (hate typing the word) disorder which from my understanding is for people who prefer pre pubescent people which again is not the case for my OH. He used ages that were lower than OH chatted to too. And used the P word to describe ages all the way up to age 15.
Dr says because he did what he did whilst in a loving relationship that his relationship with me does not act as a protective factor, which makes me terrified he has no way to prove he has a support network to reduce the likelihood of reoffending. And for some reason also offends me.
Dr suggested the SOTP which I believe isn't even being done anymore as it was shown to increase rates of reoffending, suggesting his knowledge is out of date.
Dr disregarded his other behaviours and said because OH wasn't fidgeting or restless he doesn't believe he has ADHD. Okay then explain his addictive personality, impulsiveness, hyper focus yet gets easily distracted etc, and that his brother has ADHD and was pushing for my OH to get diagnosed as we all think he has it too and needed help.
There's a few other things in the report that don't quite match what my OH told me of the situation. OH told me that the dr has made some things sound worse than they are and to ignore the age he used as it's not correct at all and suggests the wrong thing. But after all his lies before this came to light I don't know what to believe. But I've had my own psych reports done on myself and I know just how badly they can misinterpret information or just get things plain wrong, so I can completely get how a report can be wrong after just one 2 hour session. So I don't know what to think! We've had two months of brutal honesty then this report comes along...
Sorry for the rant but I don't have anyone else to go to, I can't show my parents or his as I'm scared they'll finally say they want nothing to do with him as this report makes him sound like a P who is only interested in that and may be that way forever! It makes him sound so much worse than I thought!
I'm also terrified it's going to make my OH's sentence worse as he will be classed as high risk. I wish he had never had this psych assessment as in his probation one he was told based on what he told them he's unlikely to be classed as high risk, but that it would depend on the psych report which they hadn't seen yet
Grrrr!
It focuses a lot on the behaviours surrounding the offence but completely ignores OH's chatroom addiction and makes it sound as though my OH was ONLY interested in underage people, which wasn't the case as he chatted to anyone and everyone unfortunately, in an obsessive addictive way.
Dr describes him as having P (hate typing the word) disorder which from my understanding is for people who prefer pre pubescent people which again is not the case for my OH. He used ages that were lower than OH chatted to too. And used the P word to describe ages all the way up to age 15.
Dr says because he did what he did whilst in a loving relationship that his relationship with me does not act as a protective factor, which makes me terrified he has no way to prove he has a support network to reduce the likelihood of reoffending. And for some reason also offends me.
Dr suggested the SOTP which I believe isn't even being done anymore as it was shown to increase rates of reoffending, suggesting his knowledge is out of date.
Dr disregarded his other behaviours and said because OH wasn't fidgeting or restless he doesn't believe he has ADHD. Okay then explain his addictive personality, impulsiveness, hyper focus yet gets easily distracted etc, and that his brother has ADHD and was pushing for my OH to get diagnosed as we all think he has it too and needed help.
There's a few other things in the report that don't quite match what my OH told me of the situation. OH told me that the dr has made some things sound worse than they are and to ignore the age he used as it's not correct at all and suggests the wrong thing. But after all his lies before this came to light I don't know what to believe. But I've had my own psych reports done on myself and I know just how badly they can misinterpret information or just get things plain wrong, so I can completely get how a report can be wrong after just one 2 hour session. So I don't know what to think! We've had two months of brutal honesty then this report comes along...
Sorry for the rant but I don't have anyone else to go to, I can't show my parents or his as I'm scared they'll finally say they want nothing to do with him as this report makes him sound like a P who is only interested in that and may be that way forever! It makes him sound so much worse than I thought!
I'm also terrified it's going to make my OH's sentence worse as he will be classed as high risk. I wish he had never had this psych assessment as in his probation one he was told based on what he told them he's unlikely to be classed as high risk, but that it would depend on the psych report which they hadn't seen yet
Grrrr!
Hi, I'm so sorry the report has come out this way for you.
who did the psych report and who asked for it? I would have to question how such judgements can be made from one two hour session, my oh had a forensic risk assessment done before court and spent about 8-10 hours with the psychologist. We are now having another done for ss and that Dr said it would take the same amount of time.
have you got the cv of the dr? Can you question the report at all?
who did the psych report and who asked for it? I would have to question how such judgements can be made from one two hour session, my oh had a forensic risk assessment done before court and spent about 8-10 hours with the psychologist. We are now having another done for ss and that Dr said it would take the same amount of time.
have you got the cv of the dr? Can you question the report at all?
A locum psychiatrist did it from a NHS hospital, we requested it unfortunately and it was paid for by legal aid.
That seems like a much more appropriate amount of time for an assessment! The more I think about it the more angry I am at OH for doing this as well as the dr for doing such a bad job and the system
I have his name but can't find anything about him being a psychiatrist online. I have no idea if we can question it either. The solicitor doesn't communicate with us well at all
That seems like a much more appropriate amount of time for an assessment! The more I think about it the more angry I am at OH for doing this as well as the dr for doing such a bad job and the system
I have his name but can't find anything about him being a psychiatrist online. I have no idea if we can question it either. The solicitor doesn't communicate with us well at all
If it isn't favourable to their client the solicitor doesn't have to use it. We requested the risk assessment, had it on legal aid as well. The solicitor warned us they may not use it-so even though it's been done you can request for it not to be used.
you can also question the dr credentials, just because they are a trained psychiatrist doesn't mean they can work in every area of risk. Victoria Appleyard did my oh, she is well known in this field.
im sorry your solicitor is being so shit, are you still using the duty one? I've replied to you on your thread in the legal section, we swapped solicitors as the duty one was awful
you can also question the dr credentials, just because they are a trained psychiatrist doesn't mean they can work in every area of risk. Victoria Appleyard did my oh, she is well known in this field.
im sorry your solicitor is being so shit, are you still using the duty one? I've replied to you on your thread in the legal section, we swapped solicitors as the duty one was awful
The probation officer said they were waiting on that psych assessment before deciding what risk level to recommend so it sounds like we don't have a choice, I bloody hope we can call on Monday to request it not be used but it's probably too late as they're expecting the report.
It actually really bothers me too that the solicitor said he was going to give the report to probation as soon as showing my OH, I didn't realise we had a choice if it could be used or not.
Ours was someone called Olumide Oluwole, I wish we had had someone who was a specialist in that area
Unfortunately it's the same firm as the duty one but supposedly a more senior solicitor
I'm so angry, I caved and showed the report to my mum and now she thinks my OH is a monster and will never change because the report is so awful! It's exaggerated the worst parts of his behaviour and ignored so many mental health issues that contributed to it happening.
I wish we had gone for a private psychiatrist but the solicitor said we would get the same results whether private or not but I highly doubt that. But his parents didn't listen to me weeks ago when I said we should get a private dr to see him.
It just feels like everything is going from bad to worse
If probation use the report I suppose we have no choice but for the judge to see it too
It actually really bothers me too that the solicitor said he was going to give the report to probation as soon as showing my OH, I didn't realise we had a choice if it could be used or not.
Ours was someone called Olumide Oluwole, I wish we had had someone who was a specialist in that area
Unfortunately it's the same firm as the duty one but supposedly a more senior solicitor
I'm so angry, I caved and showed the report to my mum and now she thinks my OH is a monster and will never change because the report is so awful! It's exaggerated the worst parts of his behaviour and ignored so many mental health issues that contributed to it happening.
I wish we had gone for a private psychiatrist but the solicitor said we would get the same results whether private or not but I highly doubt that. But his parents didn't listen to me weeks ago when I said we should get a private dr to see him.
It just feels like everything is going from bad to worse
If probation use the report I suppose we have no choice but for the judge to see it too
These really need to be done by a specialist in the field. The other name that comes up as recommended for these reports is Steve Lowe
StopSo or Lucy Faithfull maybe able to help or reach out to them directly if you could find it privately.
StopSo or Lucy Faithfull maybe able to help or reach out to them directly if you could find it privately.
And you are right, that program was stopped, I listened to a program on it the other week.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000937z
If a doctor prescribe a drug that that was now known to cause more harm than good, I'm sure this would go against their code of practice.
Try and fight to get another report done - Call StopSo and Lucy Faithfull, even if its just to get more information to back up why it needs to be a specialist in this field to buy more time to get a new one organised.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000937z
If a doctor prescribe a drug that that was now known to cause more harm than good, I'm sure this would go against their code of practice.
Try and fight to get another report done - Call StopSo and Lucy Faithfull, even if its just to get more information to back up why it needs to be a specialist in this field to buy more time to get a new one organised.
Do you have fill disclosure to see the evidence? If so, you could cross reference that against the report for inaccuracies.
I don’t know if we can, his court date is mid Dec and the judge set a date in second week Dec for having all docs ready. But I will ring the helplines as soon as I can. If the solicitor hadn't waited to show my OH and actually bothered to send us the doc as soon as he got it we would have had more time to question it but instead he said as soon as he shows OH he's going to give it to probation.
It feels like his parents are doing zero research into these type of offences too and it's putting a lot of pressure on me to be researching all this to make sure my OH is understood properly and not just labelled something he's not to make the case easier for everyone else involved.
I haven't seen any evidence just the police summary report. The solicitor hasn't mentioned seeing the pics either just that they found them and what categories they are and how many
It feels like his parents are doing zero research into these type of offences too and it's putting a lot of pressure on me to be researching all this to make sure my OH is understood properly and not just labelled something he's not to make the case easier for everyone else involved.
I haven't seen any evidence just the police summary report. The solicitor hasn't mentioned seeing the pics either just that they found them and what categories they are and how many
You are under a huge amount of pressure, the specific situation with him being on remand makes things hard for you. You have to look after yourself, remember that.
Is there someone higher up in the firm that you can speak to about the report? The recommendation outdated rehabilitation work I think makes it glaringly obvious he doesn't have the knowledge. Perhaps getting the legal team to see this and fight for the court date to be deferred to allow a correct and proper assessment to be done. I wonder if you can reach out to the specialists directly for them to provide reasoning and research as to why a expert is required.
Is there someone higher up in the firm that you can speak to about the report? The recommendation outdated rehabilitation work I think makes it glaringly obvious he doesn't have the knowledge. Perhaps getting the legal team to see this and fight for the court date to be deferred to allow a correct and proper assessment to be done. I wonder if you can reach out to the specialists directly for them to provide reasoning and research as to why a expert is required.
I know I do, I am having a much needed weekend away with family but it's being taken over by this report a bit! But I'm being looked after which is good.
My partners dad rang the firm yesterday and requested to speak to someone higher up as his usual solicitor was on AL, and they said they'd phone but no one did.
The solicitor hasn't made any comments regarding the report being wrong or damning or anything, it's like he's accepted it without question. OH didn't even look at it himself and I'm annoyed he didn't, solicitor just summarised it for him in the meeting.
Would we be within our rights to fight for the court date to be deferred? He has already had the probation meeting and I'm worried they'll make a decision based on the first psych report so it's all too late
My partners dad rang the firm yesterday and requested to speak to someone higher up as his usual solicitor was on AL, and they said they'd phone but no one did.
The solicitor hasn't made any comments regarding the report being wrong or damning or anything, it's like he's accepted it without question. OH didn't even look at it himself and I'm annoyed he didn't, solicitor just summarised it for him in the meeting.
Would we be within our rights to fight for the court date to be deferred? He has already had the probation meeting and I'm worried they'll make a decision based on the first psych report so it's all too late
I don't know. But I do wonder if you can get solicitors onside to see that the report wasn't completed by someone suitable qualified in this area they could argue the case. It sounds like you would need to do a bit of leg work to get the facts and information together to get them in your side / see why the report should be completed by a specialist.
It's been highlighted many times on this forum that as women we tend to want to fix things and be proactive, but we also have to remeber this is not our crime and our people need to also help themselves. Only do what you feel comfortable with, that will be different for everyone
It's been highlighted many times on this forum that as women we tend to want to fix things and be proactive, but we also have to remeber this is not our crime and our people need to also help themselves. Only do what you feel comfortable with, that will be different for everyone
Update – solicitor’s have completely ignored our concerns with the psych assessment, said our concerns will be made available to the crown court advocate / barrister who deals with OH’s sentencing and it will be a tactical decision depending on the judge on the day as to whether any comments are made about the contents of the psych report. That a lot may depend on what the pre-sentence report says which hasn't been uploaded yet.
Just completely ignored the fact that we have said we want to pay for a private assessment! That we are concerned probation will see this report and change their mind to my OH being considered "not high risk". We requested this report ourselves it’s not like the CPS requested it! Why are we not being given any control over this!
The solicitor initially said he would discuss our concerns with the psychiatrist and to not get worried about the use of the P word as they use it very loosely, and that the judge won’t pay much attention to the use of the P word. I don’t know what to believe anymore, are they trying to pull the wool over our eyes for an easy case
Just completely ignored the fact that we have said we want to pay for a private assessment! That we are concerned probation will see this report and change their mind to my OH being considered "not high risk". We requested this report ourselves it’s not like the CPS requested it! Why are we not being given any control over this!
The solicitor initially said he would discuss our concerns with the psychiatrist and to not get worried about the use of the P word as they use it very loosely, and that the judge won’t pay much attention to the use of the P word. I don’t know what to believe anymore, are they trying to pull the wool over our eyes for an easy case
Another update - solicitor was supposed to raise our issues with the doctor who completed the report, and apparently the ‘psychiatrist stands by his report and its conclusions as they are based on his assessment of my OH and the information he gave’. I cannot believe he stands by literally calling my OH the wrong name, getting the age of his parents so wrong that he suggests his mother got married at age 11, and getting many other basic facts wrong. I don’t know who to believe