I still cant understand this offence a year later
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Hi everybody. We are a year down the line and hubby has just started a custodial sentence. I am currently doing the Informplus course for families of offenders. My husband completed the course this summer and found it great. But a year since the knock and I still have moments when I don't understand how this can happen. I was pregnant at the time of offending, we had waited years before trying for a baby.
It's been explained to hubby it's a compulsion, like gambling and that these offenders just don't care about the consequences anymore because they're feeding a compulsion. And it takes something like "The Knock" for them to snap out of it immediately.
I can understand a compulsion/addiction with pornography but I just struggle with how he could end up looking at illegal images, and worse distributing 3 images and didn't realise it was child abuse and illegal. It's just so out of character, he's never broken the law before and now has 4 adult nieces and was a brilliant uncle to them growing up.
I kept asking him how he didn't realise it was really wrong, he says it's like a blur. He just keeps saying it didn't feel real and that he hated himself and didn't care about anything or anyone when he felt so low. So basically any morals or conscience went out the window suddenly one day.
I just sometimes maybe don't believe it. I think of when I'm watching a movie, I actually forget it's not real. I end up crying at the sad parts or jumping at scary parts. Sometimes I worry if he has a conscience or would just do anything to get that high feeling (or whatever offenders get from it).
How can he be so excited expecting his first child, decorating a nursery, building a cot BUT also viewing iioc????!!! How can he say he'd never harm a child, yet I keep thinking they are real children online suffering? It still feels like 2 different people and I still can't put them together.
Can anybody please help me understand?
It's been explained to hubby it's a compulsion, like gambling and that these offenders just don't care about the consequences anymore because they're feeding a compulsion. And it takes something like "The Knock" for them to snap out of it immediately.
I can understand a compulsion/addiction with pornography but I just struggle with how he could end up looking at illegal images, and worse distributing 3 images and didn't realise it was child abuse and illegal. It's just so out of character, he's never broken the law before and now has 4 adult nieces and was a brilliant uncle to them growing up.
I kept asking him how he didn't realise it was really wrong, he says it's like a blur. He just keeps saying it didn't feel real and that he hated himself and didn't care about anything or anyone when he felt so low. So basically any morals or conscience went out the window suddenly one day.
I just sometimes maybe don't believe it. I think of when I'm watching a movie, I actually forget it's not real. I end up crying at the sad parts or jumping at scary parts. Sometimes I worry if he has a conscience or would just do anything to get that high feeling (or whatever offenders get from it).
How can he be so excited expecting his first child, decorating a nursery, building a cot BUT also viewing iioc????!!! How can he say he'd never harm a child, yet I keep thinking they are real children online suffering? It still feels like 2 different people and I still can't put them together.
Can anybody please help me understand?
Hi Christmas, How are you and baby doing?
I felt the same! Try reading the book 'Your Brain and Porn' it explains how the process when watching so much porn leads to becoming desensitised the brain need more and more to be shocked and get that dopamine hit. It's very interesting and explains how easy this is.
Stick with the course too, they explain other things regarding how their brains worked.
there is also some other books by Paula Hall 'the partners perspective'
x
I felt the same! Try reading the book 'Your Brain and Porn' it explains how the process when watching so much porn leads to becoming desensitised the brain need more and more to be shocked and get that dopamine hit. It's very interesting and explains how easy this is.
Stick with the course too, they explain other things regarding how their brains worked.
there is also some other books by Paula Hall 'the partners perspective'
x
Jayjay thanks for the response. Baby is doing really good. Thanks for the advice I'll look up what you recommended. It's just constant mental torture, I thought after a year I'd have more of a handle on it but just as confused. I keep going back over everything in my mind trying to make sense of this or look for signs. Hope you're keeping well xx
Hi, Christmas chaos, glad to hear baby is well, what a good mommy they must have x
Im not as far down the road as you and I'm going round in circles too.
although difficult I can deal with the porn but I just don't see how it goes to underage. How did I not see the signs? We have a 3 yr old and it would have been going on the whole time I was pregnant etc
the books that have already been mentioned have also been recommended to me so I am going to give them a go.
Sending love and strength to you xxx
Im not as far down the road as you and I'm going round in circles too.
although difficult I can deal with the porn but I just don't see how it goes to underage. How did I not see the signs? We have a 3 yr old and it would have been going on the whole time I was pregnant etc
the books that have already been mentioned have also been recommended to me so I am going to give them a go.
Sending love and strength to you xxx
LilyRose84 thanks so much, its comforting to know I'm not the only one who still goes round in circles in my head. Some days I think ok so it was compulsive porn addiction which caused desensitisation leading to illegal images. Simple. But when I actually try to make sense of it and think how my husband was essentially living a double life, the excited expectant father coming to my hospital scans and helping choose wallpaper for the nursery. Then at the same time being the guy who was offending and how he could live as those 2 people etc. How did he justify it to himself?? How can he say he would never hurt a child after he has crossed so many lines already. Im just so confused. Its made me doubt everything in my marriage. Its made me doubt myself xx
I am exactly the same.
I understand how they can become desensitised after looking at porn and I could even try to understand if it happened (maybe once by accident) but like you say it's the whole double life and lies. How do they not feel guilty enough to stop?
I am doubting myself as a person and who I can trust as I still at times find it all absolutely unbelievable. Xx
I understand how they can become desensitised after looking at porn and I could even try to understand if it happened (maybe once by accident) but like you say it's the whole double life and lies. How do they not feel guilty enough to stop?
I am doubting myself as a person and who I can trust as I still at times find it all absolutely unbelievable. Xx
I totally agree with you both. I feel worse now post sentencing than I did during the investigation. I think we are only just starting to process everything now.
I remember asking my partner on day 2 'are you sexually attracted to teen girls?' and he said yes. He cried he was suicidal and disgusted at himself. It broke me and I will never forget that day, that look.
Fast forward to now, he's done therapy, courses, modules, read books etc etc and knows he is 100% not attracted to teen girls. He thought he was, as he was looking at them, but now he understands that it was only that shock factor in the brain that he was craving, he'd looked at porn for that long, it did nothing, he'd seen it all.
we had a normal sex life nothing boring but nothing wild. I've been through all emotions blame self doubt was it me am I that bad etc but I know now after therapy myself that it definitely wasn't anything to do with me.
like yous I struggle to get my head round this, and the double life and secrets and some days I want to run away, but for now we are trying to make things work x
I remember asking my partner on day 2 'are you sexually attracted to teen girls?' and he said yes. He cried he was suicidal and disgusted at himself. It broke me and I will never forget that day, that look.
Fast forward to now, he's done therapy, courses, modules, read books etc etc and knows he is 100% not attracted to teen girls. He thought he was, as he was looking at them, but now he understands that it was only that shock factor in the brain that he was craving, he'd looked at porn for that long, it did nothing, he'd seen it all.
we had a normal sex life nothing boring but nothing wild. I've been through all emotions blame self doubt was it me am I that bad etc but I know now after therapy myself that it definitely wasn't anything to do with me.
like yous I struggle to get my head round this, and the double life and secrets and some days I want to run away, but for now we are trying to make things work x
I find you can spend hours going over why this nightmare happened.
Why did my son look at such dreadful stuff and let his behaviour progress, why. He knew it was bad and wrong. It was happening right under our noses, life was 'normal'. Surely he knew how much it would crumble our lovely family?
I think it does me harm to churn these thoughts and I had to accept what's done is done. For my sanity I had to move forward. He probably doesn't know himself.....
As all in this journey sometimes Christmas, we try to find reasons and answers - but sadly, there's perhaps no answers:(
Why did my son look at such dreadful stuff and let his behaviour progress, why. He knew it was bad and wrong. It was happening right under our noses, life was 'normal'. Surely he knew how much it would crumble our lovely family?
I think it does me harm to churn these thoughts and I had to accept what's done is done. For my sanity I had to move forward. He probably doesn't know himself.....
As all in this journey sometimes Christmas, we try to find reasons and answers - but sadly, there's perhaps no answers:(
Smile thanks for the response. I honestly think they don't realise the effects this would have on the family. Maybe they justify this crime to themselves or convince themselves they won't get caught so there's no consequences. Sometimes I wonder do they even realise at the time its illegal.
And I think youre so right when you say they probably don't even have the answers themselves xx
And I think youre so right when you say they probably don't even have the answers themselves xx
You've hit the nail on the head Christmas - I think they belive as they are tucked away in the safety of their home, therefore it won't be discovered.
At the time of arrest my son was asked about his biggest fear - he replied "getting caught" that goes to show he did realise it was wrong......
It's all very sad....
At the time of arrest my son was asked about his biggest fear - he replied "getting caught" that goes to show he did realise it was wrong......
It's all very sad....
Hi jayjay
It gives me hope to know that after the courses and therapy that your OH has realised he's not attracted to teenage girls, I hope it brings you comfort and I hope I get there but then I'm so angry of the lies, double life essentially.
And now with the run up to Christmas I'm working full time with 3 children trying to juggle everything and keep it together while he is at a family members house having a relatively peaceful life.
i did not want to be a single mom, which is what I am now through no fault of my own and I feel resentful for that at the moment xxxx
It gives me hope to know that after the courses and therapy that your OH has realised he's not attracted to teenage girls, I hope it brings you comfort and I hope I get there but then I'm so angry of the lies, double life essentially.
And now with the run up to Christmas I'm working full time with 3 children trying to juggle everything and keep it together while he is at a family members house having a relatively peaceful life.
i did not want to be a single mom, which is what I am now through no fault of my own and I feel resentful for that at the moment xxxx