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Dragonmama

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Posted Tue December 27, 2022 12:14pm
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SAL

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I can't help on some of the question, but regarding searches, a lot of phones you are logged into a account via your phone - For Android it's Google. That account (oftin on a default setup) will log and store everything - Your Google searches, your browsing history, use of certain apps, locations, back up all photos to the cloud). It's possible they can see his search history through these means.

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Dragonmama

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Posted Tue December 27, 2022 12:50pm
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majestictopaz

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I don't know how they do it but police (IT side of it) can go back a long way. For my partner they went back ten years worth of search history... So would have been mid 00s.

I have heard from others that some files can have 'hidden files' attached, typical from torrentening and downloading what people think are 'legal' content (music films, images etc). However, I believe the forensics can look into whether files have been accessed - might be worth asking the solicitor to ask for the evidence on whether iioc hidden files were viewed. Tho possession is ofc illegal, but can give more context to the overall offending - ie was any of the iiocs actually clicked on and viewed Vs hidden and chance never knew they were there.

The guns aspect isn't illegal itself, but with the concern of other images they is likely to raise concerns - but a solicitor should be able to argue it should be ignored.

Before I was introduced to iioc offending I believed such iioc was only available through the dark web and you would need to be very tech savvy to access, but that isn't actually the case for many cases.

A full forensic report would likely help you understand the full background to it, but I personally never read my partner's or know if such a report was available to view.

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SAL

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I can go back and see my own Google search history, location movements etc in Google back to about 2013 (without doing anything tech savvy).

As another poster has said, some of these I think can be hidden files.

Posted Tue December 27, 2022 1:14pm
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SAL

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It does seem though that in these cases (probably do with all crimes) they do try to build up as unsavoury picture as possible - Related to the fire arms they'd have to prove (I imagine, some kind of intent behind the searching).

Posted Tue December 27, 2022 1:19pm
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Dragonmama

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Posted Tue December 27, 2022 1:41pm
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SAL

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I do understand your frustration. My person had one conversation, with another adult, about a child. They found no other conversations, no pictures/ videos or search terms. It was one conversation amongst 100 (possibly thousands) of conversations with women about all kinds of things that could only ever be role play - I do think my person needed be convicted of something, he was pushing boundaries and could have put a child at risk, but the outcome seems disproportionate.

My person's conversation started adult legal sexual fetish forum. I can see the decoy (police) on there and is still active. I have real mixed feelings about it all, I can see why they do it and I'm sure the do find people that are a risk to children, but it also seems they go for the low hanging fruit.

I can understand why you wanted to do this, it's part of trying to understand the truth of the situation.

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Posted Tue December 27, 2022 2:13pm
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SAL

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Vigilantes stings are particularly cruel on the families because of the public nature of them.

There was a article in the news recently about someone that chased intruders from their house and it ended in a car accident, it was n 24 hours in police custody - Throughout the program the police kept saying not to take the law into your own hands, yet vigilantes related to this crime is encouraging by the police it seems.

I spent a lot of energy being confused and frustrated by the whole thing, that energy would have been better spent trying to understand the legalities of the case and angles to help his case - It's one of my biggest regrets. If you don't already have it and you want to help, I'd ask to have full disclosure and try to help in that way.

Posted Tue December 27, 2022 3:54pmReport post

BaffledB

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Dragonmama,

Unfortunately, they do tend to clutch at straws in cases like these. It seems as though they hyperfocus on minute things, when in comparison to real issues is ridiculous. In my case the prosecution tried to use a silly video of a stick figure to say it demonstrated a sexual interest in children??!! There is so much nuance to these situations, I genuinely believe that there needs to be some kind of psychiatric or psychological input on every case because yes, some of these things are illegal and we understand why the law is there but I don't believe every case should be dealt with the way it is. This whole process is completely inhumane. Xx

Posted Wed December 28, 2022 3:49pmReport post

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