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A lot will depend on whether the order says no contact with under 18s, or not. An order like that, will limit his ability to go to lots of places and do lots of jobs.

If the order doesn't say that, then it will depend on what his supervising officer thinks is ok. Some of them are really strict and will impose lots of restrictions, but others are more relaxed.

My person's SHPO doesn't directly limit him attending specific types of location. He has a no unsupervised time with anyone under 16. The wording on these types of clauses are as below which seem open to interpretation. It doesn't specifically say he can't go places but for his own safety we'd avoid anywhere aimed predominantly at children but I'm sure some grey areas will arrive. Some establishments will have their own conditions which may specifically bar anyone that is on the SOR.

such is inadvertent and not reasonably avoidable in the course of lawful daily life.

Sorry to jump in here, SAL can I ask what the wording of the entire clause is? My partner has no contact unless approved by parents and SS. But I believe some have wording saying has to be supervised. Looking to get my partner's clause removed or at least changed as it isn't reflective of his offending and I don't want to disclose to people. I already supervise in public spaces.

It's as below. It has the second Claus.



Prohibited from
Having any unsupervised contact of any kind with any child under the age of 16, other than:
(i) such is inadvertent and not reasonably avoidable in the course of lawful daily life, or
(ii) with the consent of the child's parent or guardian who has prior knowledge of his convictions and with the express approval of Social Services for the area

I'm pretty sure that is the same wording as my partner's. But the police made us disclose to some of my family because he has contact with a family member (I always supervise and he isn't left alone). Makes me wonder if the clause means permission from SS and parents is for unsupervised contact only. I'm going to be so angry of it turns out we never needed to disclose. The police said they required it because of the 'What if' he found alone with a child. But I'm there to supervise, tho no formal sign off to say I'm suitable.

In response to the original query- my partner works for a small company that didn't ask for DBS checks. I would recommend offenders apply for companies known to take on those with convictions or some companies. Also avoid jobs with contact to children - ie best to go office based.

I'm hoping that we don't have to disclose to my siblings. They have young children, but he has never met them and would not attend any family gatherings (on the very small or rare chance he did, I and my parents know, so I'd hope this would be enough safe guarding). Your posts have made me concerned that at some point, we'd need to, especially if we were to live in the same town (which we want to avoid).

The inconsistencies make it so hard to plan or manage expectations... Or even decide if you can deal with being in a relationship with someone with these restrictions.

I know what you mean SAL. It felt like my life was crashing when the police wanted me to disclose to my mum and to my family members. This was nearly two years after he was sentenced! At no point did they or the PO ask about family gatherings.

My partner mentioned he went to a family gathering with my younger family member and that was when the police kicked up a fuss. The police even wanted me to disclose to family I don't see often and don't live in the same town. I would suggest seeing if a lawyer can clarify and before approaching the police.

The police have said before 'what if ' this that etc happens, we have had some minor legal advice that the police are over stepping. But we didn't go further, thankfully the police backed down on my other family members. I will need to go through the SHPO again to check the wording, because if it turns out my partner can be around family as long as I'm there then I will be annoyed he has missed out on a number of family events.

Unfortunately it isn't always ear what police will say or do. Ecame being we were told only a week before going on holiday the police were not happy with where we were staying because it was near a school- dispute he has no conditions to say he can't be near one

This is interesting as no idea what conditions me ex has on his release as nobody will tell me. I've gone past the point of asking questions just limitations for my family is all what I want.

my ex got a 12 month sentence but served 6 and was realised a week before Christmas, as we were not 'victims' we didn't get informed and my 14 year old got a text of his dad saying he was out! I was livid as apparently we didn't have a right to know! Phoned SS, Police and Probation and all are passing the book, the probation wouldn't even tell me he had been released and what exclusions he's had on his conditions, police only want to know if he offends again! SS told me the probation should of kept me in formed. I've got a 14 year old lad who got very upset at the text and I have a gut feeling if his dad said meet me he would! Hence why I need to know his conditions and why I'm worried as he didn't get 12 months for nothing.

update I Phoned SS And told them what had gone on regards probation etc and they did some digging for me and seems he's more high risk than Probation made out and my son can only have F2F contact if supervised and risk assessed by SS first but he can text but to be monitored ......grrrr if I hadn't of stuck my foot down and demanded I would of been non the wiser of the x's 10 year register on the SAR / SOR and that my son can't see his dad and if he does it's got to go through SS first

sorry for the rant but nothing is black n white apparently and reading this my help with the understanding of what conditions he may have

Hi,
I don't post on here often but I saw your message and wanted to share our experiences of this.

My son has this. He was only 15/16 when we got the knock. He has no clauses about contact on his shpo, however, with regards to the police and SHPO we have discovered this does not matter. He can only work in 18+ jobs (warehouse basically) or the police will disclose when he applies and gets interview regardless of shpo as that is their policy; this includes if he wanted to go to college, which he basically cannot do as we have been advised this means that if there is anyone under the age of 18 they will disclose to all parents and seek clarification as to whether they are happy for their child to be in contact with a sex offender. He has lost his right to an education and career until 2026.

It seems that conditions on the shpo don't really matter, it depends on the police.
Hope it's not as stringent when it comes to your family member. X

Hi Crazycat,

You won't have any restrictions on where you can go. The restrictions around work for you when your partner lives with you is any work with vulnerable people, nhs, schools etc. This may not always be the case but probably better to avoid it. Admin work should be fine and work in shops. I hope this helps and makes things easier for you xxx