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Hi all,
I had a very unepected visit yesterday from a police officer and our old social worker. Apparently they have finished the search on my OH's devises and ''found a number of Cat C images and videos, and they were all sent by you'' !!! So apparently in the last 9 years of parenting, 4 of those years my OH would of been working abroad, I have been updating him with photos/ videos of our children- bath time, paddling pool fun, dancing/ being kids.
He stated that 1 image in particular was taken in a sexualised manner. I have found this photo and it was my 3 month old daughter lying on here changing mat with no nappy on. Legs were realxed as baby's are, not ''open'' as he suggested. And a 23 second video of my children showing their bare bottoms and then turned around to ''expose their genitals''... in reality, it was a 3 and a 5 year old dancing to Shake It Off shaking their bums whilst they were getting pyjamas on. They turned around laughing and wiggling thie hips. The video stopped with me saying 'right guys stop that, daddy doesnt want to see any of that!'
So according to our local police, those are Cat C and sexualised. They have been put onto the Chgild Abuse/ Explotation Database for furture refernece, in case my childfrens faces are seen in any ilegal activity online.
Am I right to be utterly devastated by this? Is there anything I can do to fight this?
He said because he has read the context of our messages around these images, he is happy that it was never out of malice or for gratification. But a Cat C is a Cat C!! Is that right?
I feel like from the start of this investigation against my OH, I have been scruitinised and villified for every movement I have made.
To confirm, these were the ONLY images found on his devise after the forensic search.
Thank you, any help or advice would be appreciated.
K
I had a very unepected visit yesterday from a police officer and our old social worker. Apparently they have finished the search on my OH's devises and ''found a number of Cat C images and videos, and they were all sent by you'' !!! So apparently in the last 9 years of parenting, 4 of those years my OH would of been working abroad, I have been updating him with photos/ videos of our children- bath time, paddling pool fun, dancing/ being kids.
He stated that 1 image in particular was taken in a sexualised manner. I have found this photo and it was my 3 month old daughter lying on here changing mat with no nappy on. Legs were realxed as baby's are, not ''open'' as he suggested. And a 23 second video of my children showing their bare bottoms and then turned around to ''expose their genitals''... in reality, it was a 3 and a 5 year old dancing to Shake It Off shaking their bums whilst they were getting pyjamas on. They turned around laughing and wiggling thie hips. The video stopped with me saying 'right guys stop that, daddy doesnt want to see any of that!'
So according to our local police, those are Cat C and sexualised. They have been put onto the Chgild Abuse/ Explotation Database for furture refernece, in case my childfrens faces are seen in any ilegal activity online.
Am I right to be utterly devastated by this? Is there anything I can do to fight this?
He said because he has read the context of our messages around these images, he is happy that it was never out of malice or for gratification. But a Cat C is a Cat C!! Is that right?
I feel like from the start of this investigation against my OH, I have been scruitinised and villified for every movement I have made.
To confirm, these were the ONLY images found on his devise after the forensic search.
Thank you, any help or advice would be appreciated.
K
That is awful and devastating. I think we al know that's how young children behave with their family members. How awful for you xxx
That is absolutely ridiculous and devastating for you. I'm so sorry - to me it sounds like the police wanting to get in the final word rather than admitting there was no case to answer. How generous to let you off (sarcasm intended).
(I have multiple photos of all my children when very young in various stages of nakedness, and your description of the wiggling bottoms is what my grandson does when he's lifted out of the bath and we're trying to catch him. We might even have it on a video actually......)
Why would the police need to put it onto a database as it's only been shared with your OH? Are you sure that's true and not just bluster on their part? Can you question the legality of them sharing your private and innocent photos?
Anyway, in the absence of anything more helpful, sending you a big hug!
(I have multiple photos of all my children when very young in various stages of nakedness, and your description of the wiggling bottoms is what my grandson does when he's lifted out of the bath and we're trying to catch him. We might even have it on a video actually......)
Why would the police need to put it onto a database as it's only been shared with your OH? Are you sure that's true and not just bluster on their part? Can you question the legality of them sharing your private and innocent photos?
Anyway, in the absence of anything more helpful, sending you a big hug!
This terrifies me. I feel like this will happen to us :(
I hope you manage to get some answers because this doesn't seem fair x
I hope you manage to get some answers because this doesn't seem fair x
Thanks ladies for the replies.. I have spoken with a family lawyer and 2 criminal lawyers and all say how utterly ridiculous it is that they've done this. Said they must be really out to get my OH and because they've not found what they expected/ wanted, that they are clutching at straws and tying any way to discredit him... even if that means involving me/ this kids.
Legally I dont think I can get them removed from the database and de-categorised but I will form a complaint and take it that way. I need to get answers as to why they said they have been on the database etc, and I will then attempt to argue those reasons...
This investigation is really the gift that keeps on giving.......
Legally I dont think I can get them removed from the database and de-categorised but I will form a complaint and take it that way. I need to get answers as to why they said they have been on the database etc, and I will then attempt to argue those reasons...
This investigation is really the gift that keeps on giving.......
World has gone mad.
Hi,
This is my first time on this site. It has been around 3 weeks since 'the knock'.
I started reading this forum few days back just to start understanding the shared pain and confusion of this whole process.
I read your post about the police coming to you about the photos/videos you shared with your partner. This got me thinking and going into overdrive now-as parents we do have photos/videos of our children doing different activities/playing around or doing something new that we would like to capture and keep. That can include bath time, being silly, running around, playing in paddling pool etc.
I am now worried silly whether any of the family photos/videos be taken out of context and i will be expecting another knock on my door. This is something I never thought about until I read this post. Have there been any other experiences from anyone around this?
thank you.
This is my first time on this site. It has been around 3 weeks since 'the knock'.
I started reading this forum few days back just to start understanding the shared pain and confusion of this whole process.
I read your post about the police coming to you about the photos/videos you shared with your partner. This got me thinking and going into overdrive now-as parents we do have photos/videos of our children doing different activities/playing around or doing something new that we would like to capture and keep. That can include bath time, being silly, running around, playing in paddling pool etc.
I am now worried silly whether any of the family photos/videos be taken out of context and i will be expecting another knock on my door. This is something I never thought about until I read this post. Have there been any other experiences from anyone around this?
thank you.
This is something that didn't occur to me either until I read this post but now worries me immensely . Many of us will have taken an innocent photograph of our children as babies/ toddlers in the bath/ sink / paddling pool.I'm worried sick that these could now be used against us
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Hi all,
Just a quick update- the wonderful lady from Stop It Now at my local office has actually taken this on for me, and sent my complaint/ request of removal to high up in the Police.
If these images of my children had been sent on from my OH's phone then I would actually want them on the database, as the thought of them being used for sexual gratification makes my blood boil. But the officer sat in my living room and confirmed that they have never been fowarded, discussed or commented on ever. They were simply sent from a mother to a father. So my children are not vulnerable or victims (confirmed by Social Services and the Police!) so have no resaon other than desperation to bring my OH down, and malice towards our family... that is all I see anyway. We have been treated appaulingly since the knock.
So for those who are worried about family images being used against them, chances are they won't be, as it is not protocol and is not normal for this to happen. Unless comments have been made that sexualise the images or these images have been sent on to someone dodgy.. they are NOT illegal images.
So my complaint was sent yesterday and I will let you know how it goes. It is to get my childrens images removed from the database, and de-catagorised.
K x
Just a quick update- the wonderful lady from Stop It Now at my local office has actually taken this on for me, and sent my complaint/ request of removal to high up in the Police.
If these images of my children had been sent on from my OH's phone then I would actually want them on the database, as the thought of them being used for sexual gratification makes my blood boil. But the officer sat in my living room and confirmed that they have never been fowarded, discussed or commented on ever. They were simply sent from a mother to a father. So my children are not vulnerable or victims (confirmed by Social Services and the Police!) so have no resaon other than desperation to bring my OH down, and malice towards our family... that is all I see anyway. We have been treated appaulingly since the knock.
So for those who are worried about family images being used against them, chances are they won't be, as it is not protocol and is not normal for this to happen. Unless comments have been made that sexualise the images or these images have been sent on to someone dodgy.. they are NOT illegal images.
So my complaint was sent yesterday and I will let you know how it goes. It is to get my childrens images removed from the database, and de-catagorised.
K x
Hi,
That sounds like good news and I think will put some minds at ease, hopefully
Sending love
That sounds like good news and I think will put some minds at ease, hopefully
Sending love
Does this happen often..? This is frightening ????????????
I think we all have these kind of family photos, I can think of several in my family album. All perfectly innocent photographs that could be thought of in a different manner.
scary indeed.
scary indeed.
Hi again,
I noticed there was a couple of new comments so I thought I would update you on what happened re: the images of my children that I had sent my ex-OH over the years.
So the police tried to add them to his charges but judge threw it out, saying ''you'd have to arrest every parent if we were to start accusing him of these'' which was reassuring!
But... because it was mentioned in court, that was added to the newspaper article. And that seems to have gotten more negative attention that the actual offence. No mention of them being family photos, or completely innocent. Just something like 'the accusation of creating and viewing indecent images of children has been denied at this time'.
My theory is that the Police knew it wouldnt stick, so much so that they didnt even send the photos to my OH's Solicitor. I think it was purely for as much negative press as possible. This one article has what seems to be ruining his life. Collegues found it and has made his work life hell, so hes been asked to leave pending investigation. Local community have seen it and making him feel most unwelcome. It will die down but it has been tough for everyone invloved!
Anyway, I hope everyone is healthy and coping with this never ending journey.
I noticed there was a couple of new comments so I thought I would update you on what happened re: the images of my children that I had sent my ex-OH over the years.
So the police tried to add them to his charges but judge threw it out, saying ''you'd have to arrest every parent if we were to start accusing him of these'' which was reassuring!
But... because it was mentioned in court, that was added to the newspaper article. And that seems to have gotten more negative attention that the actual offence. No mention of them being family photos, or completely innocent. Just something like 'the accusation of creating and viewing indecent images of children has been denied at this time'.
My theory is that the Police knew it wouldnt stick, so much so that they didnt even send the photos to my OH's Solicitor. I think it was purely for as much negative press as possible. This one article has what seems to be ruining his life. Collegues found it and has made his work life hell, so hes been asked to leave pending investigation. Local community have seen it and making him feel most unwelcome. It will die down but it has been tough for everyone invloved!
Anyway, I hope everyone is healthy and coping with this never ending journey.