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Hi just wondering if anyone has any experience of family law solicitors? I would like my husband to speak to someone to see what sort of access he would be likely to get and when. Obviously I am protecting my children but I would like to gradually build the trust back up. My kids are 14 so are aware of what's happening etc. Is it 16 or 18 when legally they can be unsupervised.
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Hi, legally your children are ‘children’ until they are 18. However dependent on lots of things there could be an argument for an individualised assessment. Lots of variables to take into account. A family law solicitor will advise you but be prepared for the limit to be 18.
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i have a family solicitor - engaged one as soon as SS got involved. Be prepared that they will say they can only represent him (not you) as what they would advise your partner may be different to what they advise you. I did some research and made sure my one was accredited as a family solicitor and specialised purely in field of children. They are not cheap, but it does feel really good to have someone who is looking after your interests and who also knows the system really well.
i think SS would be hard pushed to say that after 16 your partner couldn’t have unsupervised contact, as long as the child knows and understands the offence and doesn’t have any special needs which limit that understanding. Also note that after the age of 17, children’s services cannot issue care proceedings on that child
i have a family solicitor - engaged one as soon as SS got involved. Be prepared that they will say they can only represent him (not you) as what they would advise your partner may be different to what they advise you. I did some research and made sure my one was accredited as a family solicitor and specialised purely in field of children. They are not cheap, but it does feel really good to have someone who is looking after your interests and who also knows the system really well.
i think SS would be hard pushed to say that after 16 your partner couldn’t have unsupervised contact, as long as the child knows and understands the offence and doesn’t have any special needs which limit that understanding. Also note that after the age of 17, children’s services cannot issue care proceedings on that child
Great thanks for your help. So do I search for family law solicitor or just a solicitor in general?
Good advice Big Sigh, pertinent fact about orders etc. Rainbow yes get one that specialises in family law, there should be some in your area, they used to be part of a voluntary registration on the panel of FL Solicitors but I’ve lost touch now, been out of the game for too long.
Hope you’re doing ok Big Sigh
Hope you’re doing ok Big Sigh
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get a specialist solicitor - one that has accreditation to Law Society’s. children’s panel and a member of Association of Lawyers for Children. Perhaps choose one that works fairly locally to you so they have some experience if family courts and SS in your area. Are sure you google them - they should have a profile online which tells you about their experience.
In order to reduce costs you can type up a summary of everything g that has happened and do your own photocopying of documents - that stuff really adds up. I get it all ready for my solicitor and only email when there is something v important as they charge for everything.
Jaded - I’m a bit crap actually. The limbo is crucifying. Trying to raise a family and deal with normal life with all this hanging over me is hard. Feels like the cracks are starting to show and me and partner are more tense with each other than we have ever been in our whole relationship. It just grinds you down. He is starting to say he doesn’t care any more, he just wants them to do whatever it is they are going to do so we can start to move on
get a specialist solicitor - one that has accreditation to Law Society’s. children’s panel and a member of Association of Lawyers for Children. Perhaps choose one that works fairly locally to you so they have some experience if family courts and SS in your area. Are sure you google them - they should have a profile online which tells you about their experience.
In order to reduce costs you can type up a summary of everything g that has happened and do your own photocopying of documents - that stuff really adds up. I get it all ready for my solicitor and only email when there is something v important as they charge for everything.
Jaded - I’m a bit crap actually. The limbo is crucifying. Trying to raise a family and deal with normal life with all this hanging over me is hard. Feels like the cracks are starting to show and me and partner are more tense with each other than we have ever been in our whole relationship. It just grinds you down. He is starting to say he doesn’t care any more, he just wants them to do whatever it is they are going to do so we can start to move on
Big Sigh I know that feeling, we had months of it and so much pressure from my employers as well we had to agree to live separately when he was charged too. But I always tried to keep things in perspective, this total madness that grinds good people down. I think I was able to look past the hand wringing of professionals because I’d seen it from the inside, many of those professionals believe this has gone too far. All I can say is you’ll need to dig deep, really deep, into your own truth. I think of you often and wish I could speak to you face to face.
Thanks this is really helpful. I'm not saying I think hes safe etc but I would like to start rebuilding the trust plus I would like to hear from both sides and not just what ss think.
This is so hard and i hate living the lie and pretending to people everything is ok etc. Just dont know how to deal with things. My main priority is the children and making sure their friends and other kids dont know as then bullying etc will start. I read cases which have been dismissed and I think it's not far how come my husband got convicted and they didn't plus some have had hundreds of images. How can that be accidental? I try to be positive but I'm so bitter about it all. I'm hoping this will pass x
This is so hard and i hate living the lie and pretending to people everything is ok etc. Just dont know how to deal with things. My main priority is the children and making sure their friends and other kids dont know as then bullying etc will start. I read cases which have been dismissed and I think it's not far how come my husband got convicted and they didn't plus some have had hundreds of images. How can that be accidental? I try to be positive but I'm so bitter about it all. I'm hoping this will pass x
Hi Rainbow. I understand the bitterness, but don’t let it eat you up. You will need to let go of it to move to the next stage. In terms of your partner’s contact with your children, have a real good think of what you want before seeing the solicitor as then the time will be well spent with them. If you have thoughts of reconciling, or at least being closer, that is fine as long as that is what you want.
I am no expert in this but some of the things which might demonstrate to everyone (inc SS) that you are both parenting safely are: you attend a course designed to give you more safeguarding awareness to show you are a capable protective parent, look at the parents protect website and devise a safety plan, show that you u derstand that due to his offence there is an increased risk but the risk is manageable with your vigilance, your partner attends a course which addresses his offending behaviour and he can demonstrate the impact of that course and can articulate the changes, both you and he can talk articulately about how life was before the offence and what changes you both can see now after this work (so before he may have been detached and stressed but now he has devised stress management techniques which he can talk about). You may want to consider getting an independent risk assessment done by a trained therapist/ psychologist - this is not cheap but may be worth the money, both for your peace of mind but also if he is low risk then it strengthens your position on why you are deciding to let him have increased contact.
i can’t remember if he has a SHPO in place?
Jaded - think of you often too. Have told my partner about you and read out some of your advice to him. You are becoming a part of the family !
I am no expert in this but some of the things which might demonstrate to everyone (inc SS) that you are both parenting safely are: you attend a course designed to give you more safeguarding awareness to show you are a capable protective parent, look at the parents protect website and devise a safety plan, show that you u derstand that due to his offence there is an increased risk but the risk is manageable with your vigilance, your partner attends a course which addresses his offending behaviour and he can demonstrate the impact of that course and can articulate the changes, both you and he can talk articulately about how life was before the offence and what changes you both can see now after this work (so before he may have been detached and stressed but now he has devised stress management techniques which he can talk about). You may want to consider getting an independent risk assessment done by a trained therapist/ psychologist - this is not cheap but may be worth the money, both for your peace of mind but also if he is low risk then it strengthens your position on why you are deciding to let him have increased contact.
i can’t remember if he has a SHPO in place?
Jaded - think of you often too. Have told my partner about you and read out some of your advice to him. You are becoming a part of the family !
Thanks big sigh this is really helpful. Yes he does have a shpo however it just states that he cant delete history on it items and cant download apps. The police are supposed to be checking his phone often however since Jan they have only done it once which in my opinion if they think hes that dangerous etc then they should be doing it more often x
Rainbow - if he has no SHPO in place I think that there is nothing legally stopping him from seeing his kids and exercising his parental responsibility. SS have no legal powers at all to stop him seeing his kids when and where he wants. HOWEVER, that said, I wouldn’t recommend you both do that just now. But it is useful to bear in mind that it is only a judge who can remove children from their parents (police can for a v short amount of time in an emergency). What it will boil down to, unfortunately, is how SS perceive you and the choices that you make as the protective parent. So even though it is your husband who has offended, it will be you who comes under the most scrutiny.
It may be best for you to engage the solicitor rather than him. Work out what it is you want (easier said than done). Do you want reconciliation, do you him to live with you as a family, do you want him to have more access to the children ? Only you can work this out (and there are no right or wrong answers). Then when you have an idea of what it is you want then think of the steps you would need to take to get there. I can’t remember how old your children are, but if one is later teens then you could even differentiate the amount of access according to their understanding. Write down a clear rationale for your decisions and the you could go through them with a solicitor.
It may be best for you to engage the solicitor rather than him. Work out what it is you want (easier said than done). Do you want reconciliation, do you him to live with you as a family, do you want him to have more access to the children ? Only you can work this out (and there are no right or wrong answers). Then when you have an idea of what it is you want then think of the steps you would need to take to get there. I can’t remember how old your children are, but if one is later teens then you could even differentiate the amount of access according to their understanding. Write down a clear rationale for your decisions and the you could go through them with a solicitor.
Thanks big sigh. I've started making a list of things I want to ask. He has a shpo but it doesnt mention about not being near children etc so that's why I'm confused at what hes allowed etc and I'm sure the solicitor can advise. His other solicitor lost interest straight after his conviction it may be to do with him getting legal aid and not having to pay them.
At the moment it's still early days as to what I want but within time I would like to feel he could build up that bond with the kids if they want that. They are mid teens so do understand the risks and know who to be safe. I wouldn't expect them to be on their own with him etc but I do feel that it could build up to both of them being able to be with them in public. They are at the age where they go out with friends on their own so really that would be a risk as not even with an adult.
I'm still so confused but also I want the solicitor to explain his rights and not just be told by professionals who think that's what should be done. I understand hes more of a risk and I havent denied this, I just feel it can be better dealt with if that makes sense. I need to go about it carefully as I dont want ss thinking I'm taking his side. I'm not. I just want what's best for my family. He was convicted in January so I know it hasn't been long but we have been doing supervised access since the knock which was 2 years ago! X
At the moment it's still early days as to what I want but within time I would like to feel he could build up that bond with the kids if they want that. They are mid teens so do understand the risks and know who to be safe. I wouldn't expect them to be on their own with him etc but I do feel that it could build up to both of them being able to be with them in public. They are at the age where they go out with friends on their own so really that would be a risk as not even with an adult.
I'm still so confused but also I want the solicitor to explain his rights and not just be told by professionals who think that's what should be done. I understand hes more of a risk and I havent denied this, I just feel it can be better dealt with if that makes sense. I need to go about it carefully as I dont want ss thinking I'm taking his side. I'm not. I just want what's best for my family. He was convicted in January so I know it hasn't been long but we have been doing supervised access since the knock which was 2 years ago! X
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My husband went to see a solicitor today but all they said really was that he needs to speak to his probation officer to see how to get the risk down to low risk and to ask ss for a review. She said his order doesnt have any restrictions with children or own children and it really just means being careful when accessing internet. Not allowed to download apps or delete history. She did query why he needed to go on the rehab course but I guess that's part of his order. He mentioned that he got legal aid with solicitor for his case so when it was over they didn't bother explaining his order etc.
My husband went to see a solicitor today but all they said really was that he needs to speak to his probation officer to see how to get the risk down to low risk and to ask ss for a review. She said his order doesnt have any restrictions with children or own children and it really just means being careful when accessing internet. Not allowed to download apps or delete history. She did query why he needed to go on the rehab course but I guess that's part of his order. He mentioned that he got legal aid with solicitor for his case so when it was over they didn't bother explaining his order etc.