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Why do I feel like I’m on trial

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Dragonmama

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Posted Fri September 8, 2023 9:57pmReport post

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A.

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Posted Fri September 8, 2023 10:11pmReport post

Hi @Dragonmama. This is something i keep wondering too! There hasn't been any talks of any assessments for me yet, but keep telling me i'm not able to supervise my children alone and need to continue with a third party present as i'm "naive".. yet i have done courses galore, read so many books, done work with my children, researched so much and still it isn't good enough.

I'm so sorry they are putting so much pressure on you. And i completely agree with feeling judged. They have no sympathy towards us as innocent parties including the children and its just not acceptable!! - Can you refuse the assessment? Why are they a year after being involved only just wanting to proceed with these now? I hope you're doing ok despite all of this. Sending love. Hang on in there. X

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Loosingit

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Posted Sat September 9, 2023 9:44amReport post

After reading this post I think they are doing these assessments without making me aware they are. Is that allowed

Pippin

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Posted Sat September 9, 2023 1:04pmReport post

Dragonmama, I'm not at this stage yet so have no experience of assessments but, SS should be trauma informed and have a understanding of the impact this has on you. I think you would be well within your right to say that, if they already have details of your history they do not have to take further notes, to do so would cause you significant distress and be detrimental to you. Maybe they could just ask specific questions that they need further info on.

Ultimately I believe their role should be to support you and your kids, and build relationships. But the social workers can be so varied, our first was lovely, the second one is a nightmare and our case isn't even open. She really had no clue about anything and kept referring back to the police about everything. Her and the police (being a*holes) gave me shingles!!!!

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Dragonmama

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Pippin

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Posted Sun September 10, 2023 9:14amReport post

You'd think they would be more sympathetic and actually support you through this and make allowances. Could you ask for a list of questions beforehand? And maybe have pre written answers? I don't know whether that would be helpful for you. I just don't think they have any idea what it is like to be on the receiving end of SS.

Pippin

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Posted Sun September 10, 2023 9:14amReport post

You'd think they would be more sympathetic and actually support you through this and make allowances. Could you ask for a list of questions beforehand? And maybe have pre written answers? I don't know whether that would be helpful for you. I just don't think they have any idea what it is like to be on the receiving end of SS.

Dragonmama

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Posted Sun September 10, 2023 11:22amReport post

Hi pippin, I have asked for the questions (though I already know most of them from my past) and as of yet they haven't provided anything save judgemental glances lol. Sorry I have to joke but it's really not funny at all.

some questions I don't see the relevance at all, like past work history or past relationship history. Some stuff is standard like past mental health issues (ironic that they already know that stuff), past parental support, how I was raised, where I get my parenting stance from etc and past abuse issues, it drives me crazy as all of this I have previously told them just not gone into detail.
I'm critasised for everything and anything I do or don't do. I just want to raise my children without someone looking over my shoulder and smothering me or my children

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Bitterbean

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Posted Sun September 10, 2023 4:44pmReport post

Dragonmama

May be I am naive or a bit thick or something but I fail to see how information about past jobs and relationships enables Social services to assess your protectiveness. I mean, they are social workers, not qualified psychologists. I can't help but think that it's unlikely to be objective. I do hope it's not like one of those questionnaires you get in magazines where you get points for different types of answers, and it gives a score for you. As human beings, we are all far more complicated than that!

Dragonmama

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November 2022

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Posted Mon September 11, 2023 8:33amReport post

Past relationships shows your ability to have a stable relationship and it's not just a revolving door of people. Past work shows your ability to provide I guess, I don't know.

but yeah it is a bit like a points system, better points for answers like no history of mental health issues (I'm screwed on that one) but all past relationships have been long term (bonus points) etc

Bitterbean

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Windchimes

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Posted Tue September 12, 2023 10:26amReport post

Hello,

Does anyone know if you have to have these assessments if the children aren't your partners?

My person is not my partner, we do not live together but they are family. I am expecting currently and my midwife is referring me to family services as I have made them aware of our situation. I just want to know if I'll be subject to these same (awful!) Assessments or potentially if I'll get something a little lighter given the child is not my person's child, but a relation of them.

Any info would definitely be appreciated!

Windchimes

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Posted Tue September 12, 2023 10:28amReport post

And also Dragonmamma, I'm so sorry you're having to go through this. Part of the reason for my question is reading so many of your and others' experiences with SS regarding the children, it's awful what they put families through, I understand the necessity but completely get why it must feel like you're on trial too!

I hope they listen and refer to your records rather than doing full assessments for you, I can't imagine the disruption and toll it must take. Look after yourself xx

Dragonmama

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November 2022

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Posted Tue September 12, 2023 6:53pmReport post

Hi wind chimes,

in answer to your question I doubt social will have to do an assessment in your case, but if they do it will be very basic.

thank you for your support xx