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Does it always go from magistrates too Crown can it be dealt with at magistrates
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Our expert has been cited for magistrates is he likely to be cited for Crown also, its 5 images literally clicked on link deleted immediately
As Lee said depends on sentencing guide lines but looking back if we had a choice I'd definitely say crown is the better way to go as it's a judge who making a decision and has a fast amount of experience to give a fair sentence. Or maybe that's just our experience? Although we were always going to crown.
Solicitor has said she doesn't think it will go to crown I am just thinking on a financial point of view for paying the expert for attending, what will be will be
As you can tell mu mind is on overdrive at the moment, so he could be found guilty at magiatratws but sent to Crown for sentencing and if its only sentencing the expert won't have to appear at crown, he is pleading not guilty aa he never searched it was an accidental click the expert report couldn't have been any better so here's hoping, we are £600 approx for him to be a witness at magistrates
Hi,
As Lee says, it will definitely go to Crown if pleading not guilty.
Hopefully with the expert report cps might drop the case, but in our case my OH is pleading not guilty, we paid for the images to be viewed by an independent consultant (ex police inspector) who agreed with my OH that the images are crude humour. But CPS said he wasn't an expert and that his report was inadmissible!! 2 separate judges have asked cps to consider the public interests and questioned how the images had been classified as IIOC. But still cps are proceeding.
He is due to go to trial on 16th of this month, he's got 12 excellent character references, should they be required and now has 11 witness statements of the lads who sent and received the same images within watsapp groups.
The witnesses have been incredible, by giving statements they also run the risk of prosecution, but they all feel so angry at the police that they have taken the risk. Hopefully this is enough to put pressure on the cps to finally use some common sense. But who knows.
It's literally cost us over £11,000 so far and if it goes to trial, there will be further costs.
I wish you all the luck in the world xx
As Lee says, it will definitely go to Crown if pleading not guilty.
Hopefully with the expert report cps might drop the case, but in our case my OH is pleading not guilty, we paid for the images to be viewed by an independent consultant (ex police inspector) who agreed with my OH that the images are crude humour. But CPS said he wasn't an expert and that his report was inadmissible!! 2 separate judges have asked cps to consider the public interests and questioned how the images had been classified as IIOC. But still cps are proceeding.
He is due to go to trial on 16th of this month, he's got 12 excellent character references, should they be required and now has 11 witness statements of the lads who sent and received the same images within watsapp groups.
The witnesses have been incredible, by giving statements they also run the risk of prosecution, but they all feel so angry at the police that they have taken the risk. Hopefully this is enough to put pressure on the cps to finally use some common sense. But who knows.
It's literally cost us over £11,000 so far and if it goes to trial, there will be further costs.
I wish you all the luck in the world xx
Clarke staff,
Thank you for telling your story. It just goes to show that the police will do anything within their power to get a conviction no matter the circumstances.
Your situation is appalling and shouldn't have come as far as it has. Innocent people are being thrown through the ringer for crimes they didn't commit and I'm so angry that the police just see us all like a reward they can get their hands on
Thank you for telling your story. It just goes to show that the police will do anything within their power to get a conviction no matter the circumstances.
Your situation is appalling and shouldn't have come as far as it has. Innocent people are being thrown through the ringer for crimes they didn't commit and I'm so angry that the police just see us all like a reward they can get their hands on
Lee we have another appt with solicitor next week she is saying with the evidence they show from the independant expert witness that cps will drop the case
My OH just went to magistrates. Though his sentence was 10 months it was suspended for 2 years. The magistrate can suspend upto 2 years.
Sorry Lee i think i mis read your previous post. I thought you were saying magistrates can only give 1 year suspended when my OH got 2. I just got confused. Thanks for clarifying.
I really hope they do drop it but.. like clarkstaffe the independent expert and the report was deamed inadmissible in court. What they presented in court was different than what they showed to the independent witness and it nearly ended up with the barrister becoming a witness for defence/him becase of this but then at last min they took that info out.
unfortunately my view is they would rather be getting these low handing fruit easy wins sitting behind a desk rather than getting to the root of the problem, it looks good they have convicted x amount of 'Dangerous' sex offenders.
unfortunately my view is they would rather be getting these low handing fruit easy wins sitting behind a desk rather than getting to the root of the problem, it looks good they have convicted x amount of 'Dangerous' sex offenders.