Probation and Visor meeting together.
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Hello all.
Has anybody heard of having a meeting with both Probation and Visor team together. O/H was told a while ago that this is the norm.
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Has anybody heard of having a meeting with both Probation and Visor team together. O/H was told a while ago that this is the norm.
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It should be the norm, but it isn't. They are supposed to work together, but communication between the two of them is usually poor, or non existant.
They each use different computer systems and so when one makes notes about a person, the other cannot see those notes, which means they don't know what the person is doing and sometimes it can lead to VISOR accusing the person of not letting them know about something important, when they should have been made aware of it, by probation. Probation will see the person much more frequently than VISOR do, and ought to keep them in the loop, but often they don't.
Sometimes they will give contradictory information about what the person is allowed to do, or alternatively they will be unable to give out any advice. My son often used to ask probation about what his SHPO meant and what things he was not supposed to do, but they would say, 'you need to ask the VISOR about that.'
They each use different computer systems and so when one makes notes about a person, the other cannot see those notes, which means they don't know what the person is doing and sometimes it can lead to VISOR accusing the person of not letting them know about something important, when they should have been made aware of it, by probation. Probation will see the person much more frequently than VISOR do, and ought to keep them in the loop, but often they don't.
Sometimes they will give contradictory information about what the person is allowed to do, or alternatively they will be unable to give out any advice. My son often used to ask probation about what his SHPO meant and what things he was not supposed to do, but they would say, 'you need to ask the VISOR about that.'
Absolutely agree with edel this has been our experience too with Probation and Visor not working together-son has had a couple of meetings with both present but any time he has asked for advice from either of them he is given different information and he has now been told by the P.O. that he's not allowed to ask any questions during the meetings.
This was our experience too. A meeting with both of them together but they were both giving conflicting advice so was a complete waste of time. Not seen the visor since she said she'd be back to put the software on his phone - nearly 4 months ago now.
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I've never heard anything so ridiculous! How dare they say he is not allowed to ask questions.
If it were me, I would write the questions down and then email them to their superiors with a note saying; "these are the questions my son is not allowed to ask at meetings. Perhaps you can answer them instead?"
I feel sure that if this appaling behaviour was brought to their bosses attention, it would soon stop, or else your son would be assigned to a different person. I know that you have mentioned problems with VISOR before. Do you have their bosses name and contact details? Has your son complained yet?
I realise that people are afraid of making things worse, but how bad does it have to get? If you don't stand up to buliies, they will keep taking advantage of you. There are many stories of people who complain about their VISOR and usually the police will just give the person a different VISOR. The last thing they want is an official complaint to deal with.
Also, your son should remember that he doesn't have to answer any of their questions either. Perhaps he should just say to them; "Ok, if you won't answer my questions, I won't answer yours."?
I've never heard anything so ridiculous! How dare they say he is not allowed to ask questions.
If it were me, I would write the questions down and then email them to their superiors with a note saying; "these are the questions my son is not allowed to ask at meetings. Perhaps you can answer them instead?"
I feel sure that if this appaling behaviour was brought to their bosses attention, it would soon stop, or else your son would be assigned to a different person. I know that you have mentioned problems with VISOR before. Do you have their bosses name and contact details? Has your son complained yet?
I realise that people are afraid of making things worse, but how bad does it have to get? If you don't stand up to buliies, they will keep taking advantage of you. There are many stories of people who complain about their VISOR and usually the police will just give the person a different VISOR. The last thing they want is an official complaint to deal with.
Also, your son should remember that he doesn't have to answer any of their questions either. Perhaps he should just say to them; "Ok, if you won't answer my questions, I won't answer yours."?