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Nickylara

Member since
November 2023

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Posted Sun November 19, 2023 2:18pmReport post

Hi All

I'm feeling more traumatised than I think I have ever felt. On Friday morning 7.20 we had a loud urgent knocking at our door. I went to look and there were 3 police officers. I was terrified. I opened the door and they told us they had come to investigate sexual images of chilldren which had been shared or downloaded via snap chat from our IP address. They went to the kids rooms and got everyone up and brought us all into the living room.

I have 3 teens - one is a 15 year old boy. They honed in on the teens right away and asked if they could check their phones. Two handed them over and gave the codes but my 15 year old boy didn't want to. He asked if they had a warrant which they did and just kept saying no. This is actually not unlike him - we are terrified that if someone trys to steal his phone he won't give it to them - it's how he reacts when he's scared.

I suspected he might be embarassed about what was on the phone and said I would leave. Not long after one of the male officers came through and said it's him he's admitted it - but if it's what he says it is we probably won't charge him - no one wants to convict a child. He told them the code but the phone was dead so they took it away.

We went through and my son was sobbing and spent the rest of the day in bed saying how embarrased he was. He only ate last night. I spoke to him and he said he had come across pictures of girls that looked 16- 18 and had looked at them. He vowed nothing else. However he said I think I know what happened - he said him and his friend went onto a site and were winding people up that were looking for pictures of kids. They were pretending to be young children and saying we will send pictures of us to you - sometimes they would get sent £5 and then they would block them. He said they never ever sent anything but he was sure that was the problem. Now they have his phone and we have an appointment to go for an interview. We are literally terrified - any advice would be amazing.

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BaffledB

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July 2021

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 9:48amReport post

Hello,

I'm sorry you've had to join us here. Your poor son! I would like to think the police are understanding and will be supportive but please ensure your son has a legal representative in his interview. There is guidance for minors not to be convicted of things like this for obvious reasons in situations like your sons, but it doesn't mean that it's a given. Sending love, hugs and support, we are all here for you x

Grapefruit

Member since
August 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 9:57amReport post

Hi Nickylara

I'm so sorry that you and your son are in this position.

I echo the advice above that your son has legal representation during any interview/discussion.

I wanted to let you know what the police officers said to me during a conversation I had with them about my ex-OH. It was an informal discussion where they said that they were inundated with cases, but the younger people 'are generally given words of advice given their age". Obviously we can't take that as standard for all cases but they gave me the impression that youngsters are not likely to be pursued.

I sincerely hope that this is the case for your son.

Thinking of you and sending love and support. X

Alison20

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March 2021

363 posts

Posted Mon November 20, 2023 10:10amReport post

Hi Nickylara

I am so sorry you find yourself here, but you have come to a good place to receive support. It is such a shock to the whole family receiving the knock so be kind to yourself the best you can as you and your family have been through a trauma experience.

I would recommend you speak to the helpline and your son does to, if he is able to. They will be able to provide the support you need and information to any questions you have. Your son could signup to do the Young Person's course with them so that he can learn about all the dangers associated with the internet and how young people can so easily get into trouble on there.

If you are worried about your son's mental health at anytime Young MInds are a national charity that can be good to talk to.

I agree with the previous poster, have a solicitor with you and your son when your son goes in for voluntary interview. Please be wary of the police even if they seem nice, they are only interested in convictions even 15 year olds. I talk for experience as the young person in our family (who was vulnerable) now has a convinction. As your son is 15 years old a member of the family can go into the interview with him as an appropriate adult.

Thinking of you and your son.

Alison20

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March 2021

363 posts

Posted Mon November 20, 2023 11:00amReport post

Hi Nickylara

It could be also useful for you to look at the 'Just For Kids Law' website for information. They also have a helpline if you want to ring them. They are based in London but will speak to anyone in the UK looking for information and advice. If you are in London I think they can act as Solicitor for your Son, if you would like them to.

Just want an end to it

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October 2023

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Nickylara

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November 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 12:27pmReport post

You are all so kind, wise and gentle. Thank you so much for your lovely words and support. It means a huge ammount. I will take you advise and contact these numbers and organisations.

Much love and support to you all !

Nickylara

Member since
November 2023

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Posted Wed November 22, 2023 8:50pmReport post

Just wanted to give all you lovely people who gave me such amazing advice an update.

We went to the police station today with a solicitor from Just for Kids.

It was the most awful experience we have ever had. He was questioned under caution in an interview room with a plastic mirror in between him and the police officer.

Police officer came in with a whole heap of discs and made them very explicit. My son wanted to talk to the solicitor on his own.

When we left the room the police officer told us that they hadn't found much on his phone but they had found some indecent images that he had snapped on snap chat. She said they were mainly from girls in his age group but there were some younger (category B and C)

She said they were sending the phone for analysis and that he would not get it back. She said that their systems were not very good and that the lab would be able to find everything there was but it will take 3 months to a year. She said she would then take it to her boss who would decide if it goes to the crown prosecution - who will decide if it's referered to court.

His solicitor said my son was desperate to talk but that he had advised him to make a statement that the solicitor read out.

He is absolutely shattered - the light has completely gone out in his eyes and I just feel like his world has collapsed. My heart is just broken.

She also said that she would be holding a professionals meeting and they would invite school, social worker, CAHMS etc. Not sure where that will take us. Any advise very gratefully recieved.

I've only just joined this group but the stories are just so difficult to read - families torn apart. I know this is a really difficult issue and I have teen girls myself but the distruction is such catastrophic.

Alison20

Member since
March 2021

363 posts

Posted Thu November 23, 2023 10:02amReport post

Hi NickyLara

I hope you and your son are doing as well as can be expected with everything you are going through.

Have you spoken to the helpline yet? It may be good for your son to engage in the Young Person's course that Stop It Now run, if he feels he can. A qualified practitioner will work with him one to one over a number of weeks to help him understand what has happened and the dangers of the internet. At the end of the course the Practitioner will issue a letter stating that he has completed the course and this can be given to the Police (or the courts if it goes to court) and they can take this into account when making any decisions.

You will get through this as we are stronger than we think and your son will too.
If I think of anything else I will post again.

Thinking of you and your son.

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edel2020

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Posted Thu November 23, 2023 10:58amReport post

There is now a website specifically for young people called Shore, which is run by LFF.

https://shorespace.org.uk/

SoTired

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Posted Fri November 24, 2023 12:31amReport post

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SoTired

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SoTired

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Posted Fri November 24, 2023 12:38amReport post

Hi lovely, I read your initial post and replied without seeing your further post. I have been there with my own son, who was just turned 16. It has been a journey and just know im standing behind you holding you up if you ever need anyone to contact. Please feel free to message me xxx

Just want an end to it

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October 2023

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Posted Fri November 24, 2023 5:01pmReport post

I've just seen your update, I really feel for you as I can literally connect to everything your saying. We are all here if you need us. your poor Son.

Anxious mummy

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February 2023

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Posted Mon November 27, 2023 9:40pmReport post

My experience was with my husband so I can only offer my sympathy for this. My son is 13 and I can so easily see how teen boys can do this. It's just awful the way the police are treating what a basically kids. I am so sorry your family has to go through this

Mum-needs-help

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December 2023

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Posted Sat December 9, 2023 7:34amReport post

Hello there

Am new here

Last November you was awoken by a loud knock on the door and said they was here to talk to my son who was 13 at the time about having indecent images on his phone

The photos were sent to him via snap chat but my son told the police that he never viewed them and that he deleted the app and thought that would be it but we also found out later this year that my son was groomed

We was told by the school this week that my son is going charged

We was seen by social services and the case was shut, my son is seeing someone from safer London, once a week

I just want to know what will happen, I can.only talk to My husband as we didn't want to other people to know as we don't want them to treat our son differently



Sorry



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SH9231

Member since
August 2023

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Posted Mon December 11, 2023 9:53amReport post

Hi there,

I'm sorry to hear about your son and you have come to the right place for support.

I can't help with this particular query as my personal was an adult. However I'm hoping to bump it to the top of the posts so others will read it and may be able to help x

edel2020

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March 2022

375 posts

Posted Mon December 11, 2023 10:49amReport post

If someone is going to be charged, its unusual for the school to hear about it before the parents do.

A phone call, or a letter from the police, to the parents should explain what he is being charged with. Then you need to contact a solicitor and discuss it with them.

Mum-needs-help

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December 2023

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Posted Mon December 11, 2023 11:35amReport post

Thank you for your replies

Some days am OK and other times, am not.

Am so scared

Just want an end to it

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Mum-needs-help

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Posted Mon December 11, 2023 5:04pmReport post

He has no SEN need but we are waiting for a assessment for autism.

The police wanted to come round about 2 weeks ago but didn't come( maybe busy with other jobs ) we have tried to ring the officer in charge but straight to voice mail.

Am so glad I found this group, I thought it was only me going through this

My son will be 15 in April and this happened when he just turned 13

Am scared for him,

Just want an end to it

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Stuart

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November 2020

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Posted Mon December 11, 2023 11:52pmReport post

Firstly, I am proud of you for finding the courage to reach out and join this forum. However, I am also sad that you have had to.

My son has a range of complex needs and there is a 7 year wait for an adult autism diagnosis.

Trust me, you are stronger than you believe and you will all come out the other side.

Justdontknow

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March 2024

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Posted Mon March 18, 2024 12:17pmReport post

I just wanted to ask how everyone is?



This is the only post so far that I have been able to find which is similar to our situation.