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Inthemoment

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February 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 12:23pmReport post

Pre sentence report is saying my person is a medium risk to our child as the handful of images looked at are the same sex as our toddler (images of male young teens)

We want him home asap, I believe I can manage the risk well, but I consider it a low risk. Just wondered if anyone had managed this when labelled a medium risk?

Distressed and pregnant

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November 2020

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 12:47pmReport post

Hi,

I haven't experienced a psr that states the risk level to our child but my person is a medium risk to children. I've not been able to get anyone to commit to telling me what level of risk they believe he poses to our child which is incredibly frustrating as I'm the one responsible for managing the risk.
A positive in our case was that when ss were involved to assess me for supervising contact they stated that po and visor said the risk was to teenage girls and as ours is currently a toddler that went in our favour.
If you're in a position to have an independent risk assessment done then this may be an option for you when trying to get your OH home. I believe that these can give a risk level for your own child and also the risk level of reoffending online.
I'm not sure that there is anything I can tell you that you don't already know in terms of mitigating risk with your ability to protect but it is definitely possible to get your partner home with work from both of you. Another area to consider would be the risk of emotional harm to your son should your oh reoffend. For me this would be when I would stop any contact and my person is aware of this. I understand from your comments on other posts that you have monitoring software already installed so this would be a way that you are mitigating that risk, this may not have been taken into account during the PSR although it probably should have been and it should be taken into account with ss xxx

AlwaysHopeful

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March 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 1:05pmReport post

I'm not sure what level of risk my person was seen as to my kids before sentencing but I was told by a police officer that no one starts off as a low risk to children because of what the offence is. I think the work that is done after sentencing will determine if someone can be moved to low risk.

Just want an end to it

Member since
October 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 1:45pmReport post

My sons came back medium, solicitor said most people are medium (or higher) as to get Low you would if not committed the crime. Hope that helps.



I've also managed the risk with no intervention, due to the nature of my job and having safeguarding background,

Edited Mon November 20, 2023 1:46pm

Inthemoment

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February 2023

358 posts

Posted Mon November 20, 2023 1:48pmReport post

Thank you both, he did say about the accountability app and apparently they took it into account. On a positive they are recommending a 3 year community order so we are hopeful the judge takes this into account.

Apparently she was sympathetic but said because the sex is the same the risk is medium. It would make more sense to me if like you say they were all graded medium initially. I suppose I was just hopeful because I think we've already ticked every box other than an independent risk assessment in terms of risk mitigation. I'm happy to pay but I'm almost certain our SS will pay for a LFF one. Just scared it will take months and we financially don't have months :(

Inthemoment

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February 2023

358 posts

Posted Mon November 20, 2023 2:28pmReport post

Just want an end to it, thank you. I'm hoping my safeguarding background / current job will be a help. I think every time there's a new development/assessment/professional involvement my resilience that day just hits the floor. It's awful. I just don't want harm to come to my boy through stress/financial difficulty and his attachment to his dad damaged

Inthemoment

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February 2023

358 posts

Posted Mon November 20, 2023 6:01pmReport post

Got a bit more info from the social worker - they've graded him medium risk because he's not at home, would otherwise be high risk. Seems unbelievable for 7 images nearly 5 years ago :( when you think he was looking at hundreds of legal images a week it's such a tiny proportion. I'm not trying to minimise, I know he's done something awful, I suppose I just see more nuance to the risk...

On the bright side the sw wants to refer us to lff for a risk assessment so hopefully that will go better than probation. We were fully open and honest with her and I just hope that pays off. Disheartening when it doesn't, I know my person was equally open for the PSR but it doesn't seem to have been taken into account at all

Distressed and pregnant

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November 2020

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 6:44pmReport post

It's all so conflicting, the tools that probation and visor use to assess risk seem to contradict their goals for rehabilitation. My persons po and visor have recently said that moving forward within our relationship would aid his rehabilitation but he is still medium risk to children nearly 3 years post sentencing and they just say that time will reduce the risk level xxx

Ocean

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September 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 7:40pmReport post

My person was graded a medium risk in his PSR. He was told that this was the lowest he could be graded due to his age and offence.

You might find the document in this link helpful in terms of grading. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1174397/osp-guidance-practitioners.pdf

Inthemoment

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February 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 10:27pmReport post

Thanks Ocean that's fascinating, surely moving home then couldnt automatically mean he is high risk?

Inthemoment

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February 2023

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Posted Mon November 20, 2023 10:34pmReport post

Distressed I could not agree more. Surely anyone can see an individual is more likely to reoffend when holed up in a bedsit on their own with no job, no transport, no money and no family around you Vs being in a loving family home with things to do, motivation to provide and enjoy the love and support around you and your child to bring you joy every day.

Plus at home I can monitor him 100%, harder when he's away