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We had the knock in April 2023 and are still having the 90 odd devices searched.
He moved out from the family home and I see him 1.night a week.
I chose to support him , if it was anything else.drugs alcohol etc it wouldn't be any different.
As a victim of child abuse I in no way condone it.
we have had numerous lengthy conversations about what he done and what hlit has meant for my son, my family and my job.
I've today discovered I am pregnant approx 6 weeks and whilst part.of me is over joyed the other part is dreading. I know hospital will ask about social services and we 9f course will be honest no point I. The hassle. But what is this going to mean moving forward!
My head is all.over the place I'm.tired and feeling awful my 12 year old is autistic
We had the knock in April 2023 and are still having the 90 odd devices searched.
He moved out from the family home and I see him 1.night a week.
I chose to support him , if it was anything else.drugs alcohol etc it wouldn't be any different.
As a victim of child abuse I in no way condone it.
we have had numerous lengthy conversations about what he done and what hlit has meant for my son, my family and my job.
I've today discovered I am pregnant approx 6 weeks and whilst part.of me is over joyed the other part is dreading. I know hospital will ask about social services and we 9f course will be honest no point I. The hassle. But what is this going to mean moving forward!
My head is all.over the place I'm.tired and feeling awful my 12 year old is autistic
Hi,
Cogratulations firstly!!
I'm not sure what will happen, I'm sure there are some other woman on here that can let you know.
What I will say is that your bundle of joy being born is still 9 months away, enjoy your pregnancy!! Hopefully the devices will be checked by then and IF there are charges, court might even be over and social services will be more informed to put there stipulations in, if any. If you work with them from now, hopefully your have a working relationhip with a SW and they will have a clearer picture.
Cogratulations firstly!!
I'm not sure what will happen, I'm sure there are some other woman on here that can let you know.
What I will say is that your bundle of joy being born is still 9 months away, enjoy your pregnancy!! Hopefully the devices will be checked by then and IF there are charges, court might even be over and social services will be more informed to put there stipulations in, if any. If you work with them from now, hopefully your have a working relationhip with a SW and they will have a clearer picture.
I am also pregnant, on the second trimester now. My older one is same age as yours.
I've raised the the investigation with the midwife, who completed a referral, and social services came back not wanting to do a new assessment unless there are changes or charges or baby is due, whichever comes first. Police has given me an update that there will be charges and I'm meeting my new social worker tonight, due to that update.
I expect it to be difficult and I hope I truly understand how difficult It will be. I have no doubt you will make the right decision for your family.
I've raised the the investigation with the midwife, who completed a referral, and social services came back not wanting to do a new assessment unless there are changes or charges or baby is due, whichever comes first. Police has given me an update that there will be charges and I'm meeting my new social worker tonight, due to that update.
I expect it to be difficult and I hope I truly understand how difficult It will be. I have no doubt you will make the right decision for your family.
I'm currently pregnant (third trimester).
I mentioned the previous involvement with social services to the booking midwife. She said she would refer me to social services.
That was in April/May and social services still haven't got in touch with me.
I mentioned the previous involvement with social services to the booking midwife. She said she would refer me to social services.
That was in April/May and social services still haven't got in touch with me.
Congratulations. I was 3 months pregnant at the knock, it has been difficult at times. The initial involvement from ss was daunting and being under added stress when pregnant made it hard to enjoy my pregnancy. Each case is different though and in terms of ss we have had a relatively easy journey compared to some on here but we don't live together and are only at the early stages of developing a relationship again.
Being a lone parent is hard and under these circumstances it feels harder than my previous experience of lone parenting. The fact that there isn't another parent there who can take over when you're exhausted or at the end of your tether with a very strong minded toddler is something that needs consideration too. Do you have family or friends support for those times?
In terms of the early days with a baby under ss or recently known to them, I had a safeguarding health visitor who did the initial check at 10-14 days and another at 6 weeks or possibly 8 weeks I can't quite remember. Our daughter was born February 2021 so not all health visitor services had resumed fully. At the second check I mentioned baby was discharged to universal health services and I didn't see anyone then until she was 2, had a phone appointment just before a year old to go over a developmental assessment questionnaire. Ss closed our case October 2020, reopened six weeks after sentencing to call and check the safety plan was working. Reopened in June 2022 for me to supervise on my own and closed again August or September 22 and said we only need to go back if/when he moves back in. In my case it's been harder to deal with the practicalities of the early years alone than any involvement from agencies but I know that's not the same for everyone xxx
Being a lone parent is hard and under these circumstances it feels harder than my previous experience of lone parenting. The fact that there isn't another parent there who can take over when you're exhausted or at the end of your tether with a very strong minded toddler is something that needs consideration too. Do you have family or friends support for those times?
In terms of the early days with a baby under ss or recently known to them, I had a safeguarding health visitor who did the initial check at 10-14 days and another at 6 weeks or possibly 8 weeks I can't quite remember. Our daughter was born February 2021 so not all health visitor services had resumed fully. At the second check I mentioned baby was discharged to universal health services and I didn't see anyone then until she was 2, had a phone appointment just before a year old to go over a developmental assessment questionnaire. Ss closed our case October 2020, reopened six weeks after sentencing to call and check the safety plan was working. Reopened in June 2022 for me to supervise on my own and closed again August or September 22 and said we only need to go back if/when he moves back in. In my case it's been harder to deal with the practicalities of the early years alone than any involvement from agencies but I know that's not the same for everyone xxx
Evening all
Ss have just called to advise they will be back in our lives after christmas. To say I was fuming with the woman is an understatement.
He doesn't live in the home anymore
My 12 year old doesn't see him and hasn't for months
I've lost 5 pregnacys but they want the added stress on me at 10 weeks pregnant.
This is all because he hasn't give passwords to devices on the advise from his solicitor as solicitor says is police job to find evidence not ours to hand it to them.
I'm fuming she called 2 days before christmas.
Have seen some.replied but for some reason this post is not listed in my posts so I have to search for it.
I just want this all to end
Knock was 8 months ago, I'm.seeing positive stories and am just hoping for a miracle.
Ss have just called to advise they will be back in our lives after christmas. To say I was fuming with the woman is an understatement.
He doesn't live in the home anymore
My 12 year old doesn't see him and hasn't for months
I've lost 5 pregnacys but they want the added stress on me at 10 weeks pregnant.
This is all because he hasn't give passwords to devices on the advise from his solicitor as solicitor says is police job to find evidence not ours to hand it to them.
I'm fuming she called 2 days before christmas.
Have seen some.replied but for some reason this post is not listed in my posts so I have to search for it.
I just want this all to end
Knock was 8 months ago, I'm.seeing positive stories and am just hoping for a miracle.
I think from social services view it may look like he has something to hide and if they can't have a true picture of the situation/risk it will go against you both I find it strange to tell him not to give passwords I've never heard of that x
Amethyst, I would encourage your person to give the password. We also had this legal advice from a duty solicitor and it is not good or sensible advice. The police will just take him to court to get the passwords and if he then doesn't he faces up to a 5 year jail term. Luckily we switched solicitor and gained the right advice later
In terms of SS, following a referral they have a set number of days to tell you the outcome. It's awful timing that it's right before Christmas.
They should just want to ensure you are following a safety plan, and have a plan around the birth and post birth in terms of support for you if your person can't give you support (an example might be practical care in terms what you'd do if you had a c section and needed some help and your person coildnt stay overnight with you with the newborn ). Obviously this depends on the individual social worker and team
In terms of SS, following a referral they have a set number of days to tell you the outcome. It's awful timing that it's right before Christmas.
They should just want to ensure you are following a safety plan, and have a plan around the birth and post birth in terms of support for you if your person can't give you support (an example might be practical care in terms what you'd do if you had a c section and needed some help and your person coildnt stay overnight with you with the newborn ). Obviously this depends on the individual social worker and team
Hi,
Congratulations!! I'm so sorry you are going through this stress.
It's hard to know what to do re the passwords, my Son gave his on arrest and it went for him as he was compliant from the start. There is a solicitor on Tik tok that I watch all the time and she said there is no legal obligation to supply passwords and they can go to court and get it under the Ripper notice, but it's a crown court judge that will autorise it and it depends on the case. I feel this could be one of them cases, but i could be wrong. Also, even without passwords, they can get in to it, it just takes more time and money.
Does feel like its a bit of a "theat" though and i really don't like that..
Download a safety plan and feel it in, give them the confidence that you have thought everything through, writen it down and documeted it. Also give them copies (keep a copy yourself) Then they can't misuse or mishear anything as its documented.
Congratulations!! I'm so sorry you are going through this stress.
It's hard to know what to do re the passwords, my Son gave his on arrest and it went for him as he was compliant from the start. There is a solicitor on Tik tok that I watch all the time and she said there is no legal obligation to supply passwords and they can go to court and get it under the Ripper notice, but it's a crown court judge that will autorise it and it depends on the case. I feel this could be one of them cases, but i could be wrong. Also, even without passwords, they can get in to it, it just takes more time and money.
Does feel like its a bit of a "theat" though and i really don't like that..
Download a safety plan and feel it in, give them the confidence that you have thought everything through, writen it down and documeted it. Also give them copies (keep a copy yourself) Then they can't misuse or mishear anything as its documented.
RE: the passwords - my partner got the knock a couple of weeks ago and his duty solicitor advised him to no comment the passwords. I remember SS saying to me afterwards that this shows he's being non-compliant and he's not cooperating with the police, but I assumed the no comment for the passwords was common practice?
I was told by someone at LFF today that the forensics team can crack the passwords regardless, they just have to run it through a programme of theirs, but as someone mentioned, it just delays the process. My partner will be getting solicitor advice on the matter anyway so he'll just do whatever they suggest.
I was told by someone at LFF today that the forensics team can crack the passwords regardless, they just have to run it through a programme of theirs, but as someone mentioned, it just delays the process. My partner will be getting solicitor advice on the matter anyway so he'll just do whatever they suggest.
Hi!
I have a child protection conference scheduled just after Christmas, and before I even attended that I was told they will go down PLO route and they want my husband out the house.
My baby is going to be born into a child protection plan, at the very least. Social workers are being really difficult, I do think they are making a bad situation worse, especially with probing the teenager every too often, and making me repeat myself to many different workers. Realistically, according to advise I received from a family lawyer, I will have the situation on hand, and will be on CPP a long time. Your partner is the parent and has parental rights, therefore it's different from your older child's case. I keep telling myself they are just doing their jobs, but i aged a few years this year alone.
I do not know the sex of the baby but I will have to find out and I am told, that it is going to be more of a worry if baby if a girl and that's made me hope and pray that the baby is a boy. I didn't otherwise have a preference.. I do have a safety plan. I am happy to share it with you via PM.
I have a child protection conference scheduled just after Christmas, and before I even attended that I was told they will go down PLO route and they want my husband out the house.
My baby is going to be born into a child protection plan, at the very least. Social workers are being really difficult, I do think they are making a bad situation worse, especially with probing the teenager every too often, and making me repeat myself to many different workers. Realistically, according to advise I received from a family lawyer, I will have the situation on hand, and will be on CPP a long time. Your partner is the parent and has parental rights, therefore it's different from your older child's case. I keep telling myself they are just doing their jobs, but i aged a few years this year alone.
I do not know the sex of the baby but I will have to find out and I am told, that it is going to be more of a worry if baby if a girl and that's made me hope and pray that the baby is a boy. I didn't otherwise have a preference.. I do have a safety plan. I am happy to share it with you via PM.