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Mandymoo

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September 2021

295 posts

Posted Sun November 26, 2023 7:47pmReport post

Does anyone know how long the horizon course takes?

Distressed and pregnant

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November 2020

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Posted Sun November 26, 2023 8:42pmReport post

Hi,

My person was told it would take about 9 months but with missed weeks due to staffing shortages and closures of the building, planned breaks etc it was close to a year xxx

Mandymoo

Member since
September 2021

295 posts

Posted Sun November 26, 2023 10:22pmReport post

Is the course done on line or in a group setting. X

Ocean

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September 2023

766 posts

Posted Sun November 26, 2023 10:37pmReport post

My person has been told that his course will be face to face attendance in a group setting.

Edited Sun November 26, 2023 10:38pm

Distressed and pregnant

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November 2020

1001 posts

Posted Mon November 27, 2023 8:42amReport post

Hi,

It was face to face in a group setting. He found it very beneficial xxx

Caggie164

Member since
October 2023

274 posts

Posted Mon November 27, 2023 8:48amReport post

Morning all

Please can I ask what the horizon course is.

Thanks

edel2020

Member since
March 2022

373 posts

Posted Mon November 27, 2023 10:57amReport post

Horizon and iHorizon are treatment programmes, run by probation, for people on the SOR. The iHorizon one is for iioc offenders only and is shorter than the main Horizon one.

IHorizon is 23 weekly sessions and Horizon is 31 weekly sessions. Each session is 2 hrs long.

Distressed and pregnant

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November 2020

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Posted Mon November 27, 2023 11:16amReport post

It's important to note that not every person on the sor and working with probation will complete the horizon and ihorizon courses. It has to be part of sentencing or if probation think it will benefit the person xxx

Caggie164

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October 2023

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Posted Mon November 27, 2023 11:20amReport post

Ah thanks for the information :) x

Inthemoment

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February 2023

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Posted Mon November 27, 2023 11:48amReport post

iHorizon has been recommended for my person, does anyone know if they work it around work commitments etc? He's worried about finding another job with the flexibility to fit around the requirements

Distressed and pregnant

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November 2020

1001 posts

Posted Mon November 27, 2023 12:45pmReport post

Hi inthemoment,

They will take into account work commitments at the time of the course starting. My person didn't have a job at the time of doing the introduction part of the course so they put him on a weekday early session. He ended up getting a nights role whilst on the course as he found it hard to find anything in the daytime that wasn't Monday to Friday. They cannot change groups after a certain point, potentially week two of the group sessions although I can't be 100% on that but a guy on my persons course got a job after the first week and left. It's not really the kind of course that you can pick up at any point as it flows with the group and the individuals within that.
In our area they offer an evening course too so there is flexibility prior to starting a group. I hope this is the same everywhere as employment is difficult enough to find xxx

Dragonmama

Member since
November 2022

251 posts

Posted Tue November 28, 2023 3:09pmReport post

Once my person is released he's been told he must attend.

question for those who have persons who went to jail. How is he meant to get a full time job, see his probation officer, possibly see the kids and attend the horizon course. Did others find it difficult to do?

Just want an end to it

Member since
October 2023

212 posts

Posted Tue November 28, 2023 11:34pmReport post

Our person didn't go to jail but is juggling uni, work, community service, probation, ihorizons, Lucy faithful course and counselling. It's a lot but possible, we just have to be super organised and prepared (his autistic so being prepared is the main thing)

Scaredmumof3

Member since
July 2023

100 posts

Posted Tue December 5, 2023 10:00amReport post

Can I ask when is covered in these Horizon courses?

Is it a longer & more detailed version of Inform?

Lucy from Stop it Now!

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September 2018

490 posts

Posted Tue December 5, 2023 1:15pmReport post

Dear Forum Users

We thought it may be useful to shed some knowledge from our experienced team on the topic of programmes, specifically, the Horizon programme The Probation Service has to offer.

There are two variations of the programme, Horizon (typically for contact offences) and iHorizon (typically for online offences). These are treatment programmes which can be completed in custody (please note that only some prisons deliver the programme) or in the community as a requirement on a community order, suspended sentence or for an individual on licence. It takes approximately 9 months to complete this programme, depending how it is delivered. Not everyone who is sentenced for a sexual offence will complete or be eligible for either of the programmes. The waiting lists can be extensive, especially in custodial settings, and there may not be enough time to serve on their sentence to complete the programme.


These courses are different to the ones we offer, Engage Plus and Inform Plus. The programmes we offer are Psychoeducational and are 10 weeks in duration.

We hope this is helpful.

Kind Regards

The Forum Team

Edited by moderator Tue December 5, 2023 1:51pm

Mandymoo

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September 2021

295 posts

Posted Tue December 5, 2023 9:53pmReport post

Lucy

my son was a non contact offence so why would he be having to do the horizon course and not the ihorizon?
also his PO has said there is a massive long waiting list so what happens if the course is 9 months long but he only has 6 months of his sentance left?

Distressed and pregnant

Member since
November 2020

1001 posts

Posted Tue December 5, 2023 10:04pmReport post

Hi Mandymoo,

can only speak from my persons experience but his offence was an online communication offence and his group was a mixed bag of internet communication, iioc and sexual crimes against adults.
I think probation decide during the psr and also have knowledge on the courses that are run in that area and waiting lists etc xxx

Edited to add; how long does he have left with probation? I prompted my persons po when he had eighteen months left just to remind her xxx

Edited Tue December 5, 2023 10:06pm

Ocean

Member since
September 2023

766 posts

Posted Tue December 5, 2023 10:11pmReport post

Hi Mandymoo, my sons offence was online communication and he has to do the Horizon course. He is on the waiting list for it and is hoping to start it once he has completed his community payback hours. He will have to travel to the course as there isn't one in our local area.

edel2020

Member since
March 2022

373 posts

Posted Wed December 6, 2023 10:37amReport post

Horizon is similar to informplus, but the focus is on developing strengths for the future, and they do not discuss the offence itself.

Horizon and iHorizon aim to help participants improve in five domains:

• Managing life’s problems (e.g., controlling feelings; solving problems)

• Healthy thinking (e.g., fewer pro-offending beliefs; respecting rights of others)

• Healthy sexual interests (e.g., not using sex to cope with negative events)

• Positive relationships (e.g., perspective-taking; assertiveness; negotiation)

• Sense of purpose (e.g., protective factors; being a good member of society)

Mandymoo

Member since
September 2021

295 posts

Posted Wed December 6, 2023 10:59amReport post

Distressed. He has got 12 months left but has been told there is a very long waiting list for the course so would he still have to do it once his sentence has finished.

Distressed and pregnant

Member since
November 2020

1001 posts

Posted Wed December 6, 2023 12:09pmReport post

I think he would have to complete as usually it is part of the court ordered punishment. There again doesn't seem to be any consistency to when people complete it. On my persons course were people at various stages post sentence. If he has a probation meeting coming up then a reminder of when he finishes his probation sentence might be needed xxx

Scaredmumof3

Member since
July 2023

100 posts

Posted Thu December 7, 2023 1:57pmReport post

Thank you Edel2020 for this, this is exactly what I needed thank you:)