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Upset mum

Member since
June 2020

2403 posts

Posted Thu December 21, 2023 9:57pmReport post

Evening lovlies x

A different check in to my usual Friday catch up

As we have all read the posts from WeeWitch and today Pippin

We have all been touched by the harsh reality of this journey and what could happen

Men struggle so much with been able to talk about their emotions

I lost my brother to suicide he was just 28 he was my big brother there was 10 months and 3 weeks between us, at one point we were the same age and I used to tell him you can't tell me what to do, how could he we were the same age for almost 3 months! How I wish I could still say those words,

Fast forward to where I am now, I have seen my own son wanting to give up every day for 17 months, while under investigation, every day wondering is today the day he will leave us, watching him cry in front of me and his sister, saying he can't go on, my anxiety was beyond anything I could imagine, every day the dread, the sadness, I didn't want to go on but yet I am here, so is my beautiful daughter, and so is my son, I have seen my son at his lowest, I have seen him on video calls after self harming his arms shredded, and the pain it caused his sister, we have a long journey ahead but I am truly grateful that I have him here, I get to see him, he no longer self harms, he is doing a degree and is ok

And for me no matter how hard this journey is there is a way to cope, to live, but I just wish they could see

My heavy heart really does ache

Strength and hugs xx

Ocean

Member since
September 2023

771 posts

Posted Thu December 21, 2023 10:26pmReport post

Upset, I totally agree with you. My heart breaks for WeeWitch and Pippin and for all those whose loved ones are struggling to keep going.

Knowing that his mum, sister and brother all love and support him must be a huge comfort to your son. Yes you have a long journey ahead but your son is moving forward, he's working on his degree and is feeling better about himself. You are right to feel proud, he's doing great.

Upset mum

Member since
June 2020

2403 posts

Posted Thu December 21, 2023 10:32pmReport post

Ocean x

Every small step is a huge achievement and you know x

Flower

Member since
February 2023

104 posts

Posted Thu December 21, 2023 10:32pmReport post

Upset mum,

I too have been deeply saddened by the harsh reality that the very people that we try so hard to support can slip through our fingers, and there is not much we can do.

I thank God my husband is here 11 months in, and some days are really really hard and makes it even harder to stand by. We have so many agencies on our case, rightfully or wrongfully, trying to strip him off reasons to live.

I wish it was different, the process was shorter, and the stigma didn't exist. Would have been ideal if material wasn't so easily accessible, and every child in the world was actually safe and loved. But that's not the reality and we all suffer, differently but we do.

Upset mum

Member since
June 2020

2403 posts

Posted Thu December 21, 2023 10:48pmReport post

Flower

For everyone of us there are victims and not one of us condone our loved ones actions

Not a moment do we wish we were not here , but we are and all we can do is to be here for each other xx

CrystalTears

Member since
April 2023

7 posts

Posted Fri December 22, 2023 11:28amReport post

Hi Upset,

This is so true. It's beyond heartbreaking to read the recent news.

There really needs to be something done about the structure of investigations of this nature. For one, media should not be allowed and two, the length really needs to be shortened. Our people face the repurcussions of their actions, for their offences to be made public is just unnecessary. Part of this journey, once you have moved past the initial shock of what's happened, is the constant stress and worry of the media reporting as this damages reputation and not just to the offender but the family too.

As we all know, alot of the offenders end up on this path accidentally. I always question as to why offences to do with drugs or carrying a weapon, etc can see people let off with warnings but this doesn't (I am not downplaying how serious IIOC or communication with a minor is) but if the offenders are getting the help they need, not reoffending and are being monitored, they should really be allowed a chance, the same way other offences do.

Smile through tears

Member since
September 2021

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Seaside

Member since
July 2022

561 posts

Posted Sat December 23, 2023 5:20pmReport post

Upset and Smile your words are so true and my heart is aching for Pippin and Wee Witch.

I have lost close friends and family members to suicide and 4 years before the knock my son attempted to take his own life after suffering years of bullying from others.

Following his arrest he was completely broken and I was terrified that he would again try to end his life.

The relevant authorities have shown no empathy whatsoever towards either him or the rest of our family and he was told by the OIC not to do anything silly because " it creates extra paperwork for us ".

I will never condone or understand why he did what he did but I know that this stupid mistake doesn't define him and for others to make someone feel that the only option is to end their life surely isn't right ?

I was saddened by the recent statement by the judge in the case of Brianna Ghey who said that protecting the parents of the offenders wasn't necessary in her opinion- if the Mother of Brianna has shown empathy towards the parents of the offenders is it really too much to expect the authorities to also show some compassion??

Yes I know the judge went on to say that people should not seek to take revenge on the parents but as we all sadly know once people are named that is not the case.

Upset mum

Member since
June 2020

2403 posts

Posted Sat December 23, 2023 5:52pmReport post

Seaside x

We all wish we weren't here and to live this journey is a long painful experience

Suicide has to be the hardest, saddest, loneliest place to be, we have all wanted to go to sleep and never wake up especially on this journey, for our loved ones that take this route they dont understand the emptiness they leave behind, the pain, the anguish, for them they are no longer suffering, but for the survivors we walk the endless journey, it's the same emotions been here

I am truly grateful my son is here when I think back I really diddnt think he would have been

We walk this journey together,

No matter how difficult this journey is we are still standing, and so are our loved ones xx