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I found this forum weeks ago, but it's taken me this long to build up the courage to register and post. My husband was arrested after having an online coversation of a sexual nature with someone posing as a 14 year old girl. He then arranged to meet up and was picked up by the police. First thing I knew about it was when I get 2 police officers knocking on my door to search the house for electronic devices.
He says that he wanted to talk to someone that he didn't know, which is how it all started and that it's just this one time. He's realised how depressed he's actually been and how he's been trying to keep it all together and as a result just bottling everything up. He went to see his GP and got put on anti-depressants, which they've now doubled the dose of. He's trying to get some counselling, but the first place that the GP refered him to said that it's too complex for them and he needs to get the GP to refer him to the community mental health team, but that could take weeks.
It goes to court on thursday. He spoke to his solictor and barrister on friday and agreed that he's going to plead guilty. The barrister has seen the chat logs and agreed that pleading guilty is the better option. But the barrister wants to try and get it ajurned in order to get a mental health assestment done. I've said I'm going to court, I don't particuarly want to, but if I'm going to stay with him then there has to be no secrets, plus there is no way I'd be able to concentrate on work anyway.
I've only told one person about him being arrested, but not what he was arrested for, and while she's been pretty supportive she also has surgery planned for tomorrow and so I don't want to dump on her. I must have gone through every emotion in the book, some days I'm so angry at him I could scream, other days all I want to do is cry, I'm struggling to come to terms with the fact that he could do something like this, whether he's depressed or not. I've wondered whether I should go to counselling just to give me someone to talk to. Has anyone found counselling useful for themselves?
He says that he wanted to talk to someone that he didn't know, which is how it all started and that it's just this one time. He's realised how depressed he's actually been and how he's been trying to keep it all together and as a result just bottling everything up. He went to see his GP and got put on anti-depressants, which they've now doubled the dose of. He's trying to get some counselling, but the first place that the GP refered him to said that it's too complex for them and he needs to get the GP to refer him to the community mental health team, but that could take weeks.
It goes to court on thursday. He spoke to his solictor and barrister on friday and agreed that he's going to plead guilty. The barrister has seen the chat logs and agreed that pleading guilty is the better option. But the barrister wants to try and get it ajurned in order to get a mental health assestment done. I've said I'm going to court, I don't particuarly want to, but if I'm going to stay with him then there has to be no secrets, plus there is no way I'd be able to concentrate on work anyway.
I've only told one person about him being arrested, but not what he was arrested for, and while she's been pretty supportive she also has surgery planned for tomorrow and so I don't want to dump on her. I must have gone through every emotion in the book, some days I'm so angry at him I could scream, other days all I want to do is cry, I'm struggling to come to terms with the fact that he could do something like this, whether he's depressed or not. I've wondered whether I should go to counselling just to give me someone to talk to. Has anyone found counselling useful for themselves?
Dear mj173
Your story is very similar to mine in that my partner was chatting to a 14 year old girl arranged to meet them & was caught by a vigilante group. That was last June 2018, he was released under investigation and we
are no further forward???? There was no actual girl by the way, it was always the vigilantes he was chatting to.
I think the initial shock, anger total confusion is completely understandable and a natural reaction. I have found this forum
to be a life saver, just knowing I am not on my own in this horrendous situation. I haven’t had any counselling myself but my partner is and it has helped him soo much!! I think you should definitely consider counselling and keep coming back here, there is so many people on here with such good advice. The LF also has a help line you can phone. I have found just taking one day at a time had really helped me so much and
this forum as well.
sending you very best wishes
Mabel xx
Your story is very similar to mine in that my partner was chatting to a 14 year old girl arranged to meet them & was caught by a vigilante group. That was last June 2018, he was released under investigation and we
are no further forward???? There was no actual girl by the way, it was always the vigilantes he was chatting to.
I think the initial shock, anger total confusion is completely understandable and a natural reaction. I have found this forum
to be a life saver, just knowing I am not on my own in this horrendous situation. I haven’t had any counselling myself but my partner is and it has helped him soo much!! I think you should definitely consider counselling and keep coming back here, there is so many people on here with such good advice. The LF also has a help line you can phone. I have found just taking one day at a time had really helped me so much and
this forum as well.
sending you very best wishes
Mabel xx
Thank you both. Even just posting on here makes me feel less alone. Arrest to court date has been really quick (6 weeks), which I guess in some respects is a good thing, I'm not sure I could have coped if this had been hanging around for months, but at the same time makes me wonder why.
I'll start looking around for some local counsellors.
I'll start looking around for some local counsellors.
Hi Mabel
I really feel for you having to wait so long to find out what is going to happen. I am almost 6 months Post knock and the thought of this going on for more than another 6 months is hard to think about. Did you have any devices such as phones taken by the police and if so have they returned them yet? Why I ask is that I am under the impression that once devices are returned it means that they have whatever evidence is needed and it has been sent to the CPS. A significant step as far as I can see and at least it means there is some progress.
I really feel for you having to wait so long to find out what is going to happen. I am almost 6 months Post knock and the thought of this going on for more than another 6 months is hard to think about. Did you have any devices such as phones taken by the police and if so have they returned them yet? Why I ask is that I am under the impression that once devices are returned it means that they have whatever evidence is needed and it has been sent to the CPS. A significant step as far as I can see and at least it means there is some progress.
Hi Izzy
The police only returned devices that we had to have ie work laptops, they rushed then through.
The other things, in my case,were kept until after sentencing and any that had anything on them were destroyed
Unfortunately there is no time limit on any of this and the waiting is a killer but keep coming on here and getting support from all the lovely people on here
Xx
The police only returned devices that we had to have ie work laptops, they rushed then through.
The other things, in my case,were kept until after sentencing and any that had anything on them were destroyed
Unfortunately there is no time limit on any of this and the waiting is a killer but keep coming on here and getting support from all the lovely people on here
Xx
Hi again Izzy and mj
yes like Tracey has said there is no time limit when released under investigation????
Yes we had all our devices taken on the night he was arrested. We have heard nothing about whether they have looked a them yet. The police went thro our home very thoroughly, even looking thro my kitchen cupboards! My partner has assured me there is nothing on any of the home devices it was all done from a phone he got himself, in addition to his usual phone he uses.
6 weeks is very quick, do you mind telling me which area you are in? We are in Essex.
Do you have children? We have an 11 year old son who knows nothing about what has happened.
Yes keep coming back on this forum, it really does help, there is so much good advice from people in similar situations
Mabel x x x
yes like Tracey has said there is no time limit when released under investigation????
Yes we had all our devices taken on the night he was arrested. We have heard nothing about whether they have looked a them yet. The police went thro our home very thoroughly, even looking thro my kitchen cupboards! My partner has assured me there is nothing on any of the home devices it was all done from a phone he got himself, in addition to his usual phone he uses.
6 weeks is very quick, do you mind telling me which area you are in? We are in Essex.
Do you have children? We have an 11 year old son who knows nothing about what has happened.
Yes keep coming back on this forum, it really does help, there is so much good advice from people in similar situations
Mabel x x x
Hi Mabel
He was arrested in London so it's the Met that are dealing with it. No children here and no plans to have any, thankfully, so I don't have that to also consider.
They took more of my devices than they did of his. I'm grateful that they left me both my work computer and my mobile phone as otherwise it would have been impossible for me to work. They did take both of my portable hard drives which contained every photo I have ever taken plus all the photos of me when I was younger. So I really want to get those back with their contents. You think you are doing the right thing by backing them up but don't consider that you might lose both your laptop and backup device at the same time.
Should find out tomorrow what time to arrive at court. I'm trying my hardest to put it out of my mind today, but it's not the easiest thing to do.
He was arrested in London so it's the Met that are dealing with it. No children here and no plans to have any, thankfully, so I don't have that to also consider.
They took more of my devices than they did of his. I'm grateful that they left me both my work computer and my mobile phone as otherwise it would have been impossible for me to work. They did take both of my portable hard drives which contained every photo I have ever taken plus all the photos of me when I was younger. So I really want to get those back with their contents. You think you are doing the right thing by backing them up but don't consider that you might lose both your laptop and backup device at the same time.
Should find out tomorrow what time to arrive at court. I'm trying my hardest to put it out of my mind today, but it's not the easiest thing to do.
Am not looking forward to going to court tomorrow. It’s going to be an early start as need to be on a 7:30 train.
Husband is scared that he’s going to get a custodial sentence, which I guess is understandable. I’m not sure what to say to him, he broke the law and deserves the consequences, but at the same time I still love him and don’t want him to be sent down. Alternatively if the barrister gets it adjourned then we could be in for more uncertainty and waiting. I can’t wait for it all to be over, so then can start to pick up the pieces.
Husband is scared that he’s going to get a custodial sentence, which I guess is understandable. I’m not sure what to say to him, he broke the law and deserves the consequences, but at the same time I still love him and don’t want him to be sent down. Alternatively if the barrister gets it adjourned then we could be in for more uncertainty and waiting. I can’t wait for it all to be over, so then can start to pick up the pieces.
Hi good luck in court tomorrow , we had court last month for sentencing and we where 95% sure on a custodial but got suspended I would say tho be prepared for what u hear in court as they go into great detail which I wasn’t prepared for at all xxx
keep strong will be thinking of you both xxx
keep strong will be thinking of you both xxx
Hi mjl73
Just wanted to wish you well for tomorrow, I hope it isn't too traumatic for you. We are all venturing into unknown territory day by day it seems. I am in pre-charge limbo with no idea of what lies ahead at the moment but I am greatly encouraged by the strength of others on here and determined to battle my way through somehow.
Get a good night's sleep if you can, I'm sure tomorrow will be exhausting for you whatever happens x
Just wanted to wish you well for tomorrow, I hope it isn't too traumatic for you. We are all venturing into unknown territory day by day it seems. I am in pre-charge limbo with no idea of what lies ahead at the moment but I am greatly encouraged by the strength of others on here and determined to battle my way through somehow.
Get a good night's sleep if you can, I'm sure tomorrow will be exhausting for you whatever happens x
Just about managed to get some sleep. I had considered going to the pub quiz last night with some friends but I really wasn’t up to trying to put on a brave happy face. So settled for a night in watching tv.
Thanks Janno, part of me doesn’t want to know all the details, but at the same time I know if i hear it for myself then I know that i’m not being lied to by him. If this relationship stands any chance I know that trust needs to be rebuilt.
Maddie - so sorry that you have joined this club that no-one wants to join. Look after yourself.
The last time I set foot in a court room was when I was at school and we went for a school trip. Never expected to be back there.
Thanks Janno, part of me doesn’t want to know all the details, but at the same time I know if i hear it for myself then I know that i’m not being lied to by him. If this relationship stands any chance I know that trust needs to be rebuilt.
Maddie - so sorry that you have joined this club that no-one wants to join. Look after yourself.
The last time I set foot in a court room was when I was at school and we went for a school trip. Never expected to be back there.
Hi Mj173
Just wanted to say good luck today
Hope it isn't too bad xx
Just wanted to say good luck today
Hope it isn't too bad xx
Good luck today. I can only guess how terrifying this day must be for you, still waiting for ours. Be strong and know that all of us on this forum are thinking of you. Xx
That was probably the worst 15 minutes of my life. Adjourned for 4 weeks. The judge thought he was in custody originally, but the when realising was on bail he renewed the bail for the 4 weeks.
There is talk that he may have had conversations with other people as well, but the prosecutor didn’t have details. Husband can’t remember, which probably doesn’t help.
The barrister was actually really nice, thankfully.
There is talk that he may have had conversations with other people as well, but the prosecutor didn’t have details. Husband can’t remember, which probably doesn’t help.
The barrister was actually really nice, thankfully.
Mjl73,
So glad you have survived it. Bet you just wish it was all done and dusted though. So another 4 weeks of stress building upto the next battle.
Well done for getting through it. Give yourself a big hug and know that many of us on here are wishing you well. Xx
So glad you have survived it. Bet you just wish it was all done and dusted though. So another 4 weeks of stress building upto the next battle.
Well done for getting through it. Give yourself a big hug and know that many of us on here are wishing you well. Xx
The last couple of weeks have been a right mix of emotions. For nearly a week I felt sick and ever since I've sort of gone into hiding, hence why I've not been on here. I keep thinking that people know and are judging me. So much so that I started to go to a different supermarket so that I didn't bump into anyone and altered my usual running route. I actually have no idea if anyone knows, nothing has been said.
Have managed to be productive though over the past couple of weekends and finished off a bunch of outstanding DIY jobs in the house. While I don't want to move, if it comes to it, at least those jobs will be done, and if I don't then the house looks a little better. So I guess it's a win / win there, plus it's been keeping me occupied and distracted.
Have managed to be productive though over the past couple of weekends and finished off a bunch of outstanding DIY jobs in the house. While I don't want to move, if it comes to it, at least those jobs will be done, and if I don't then the house looks a little better. So I guess it's a win / win there, plus it's been keeping me occupied and distracted.
Hi mjl73, that’s great that you are keeping yourself busy. Focusing on other things make a big difference. If you are feeling really paranoid about people knowing, it might be worth a trip to your doctor. I’m nearly 7 years post knock but totally get the paranoia at the start & even know sometimes. I can say it does get easier with time x keep going your doing great xx
Hi Phoenixmum
Can I aske did you stay with your partner/husband? Our son due home in a while so looking for advice on being on the register etc x
Can I aske did you stay with your partner/husband? Our son due home in a while so looking for advice on being on the register etc x
Hi nicenana, it was my son who offended, he was still living with at the time, in fact stayed with us whole time he was on the register. Are you on mumsnet? I could pm you if you are xx
Hi Phoenixmum.
Im not on mumsnet because I don’t know how to do it. If you could give me a rough guide on how to set it up I could go there and try. I really would love to chat as we will be in that situation soon x
Im not on mumsnet because I don’t know how to do it. If you could give me a rough guide on how to set it up I could go there and try. I really would love to chat as we will be in that situation soon x
Hi again. I think I have joined under the name nicenana but I’m not sure how to send or receive messages x
Hi nicenana, I’ll try & pm you x
Hi nicenana, I’ve sent a pm, there’s a typo in it but it is me xx
I think I’ve managed to reply x
So back to court tomorrow. For the past week I'd been doing a bit better and managing to take it one day at a time and trying not to over think all the 'what ifs'. Thankfully I'd had a lot of cognitive behaviour therapy a few years back so I had those coping skills to fall back in. Work has also been crazy busy so that's done a good job of also keeping me distracted.
He's been told to prepare for the worse case and a custodial sentance, but the barrister also said, they have to say that so that you can't come back on them and say "but you said it wouldn't be a custodial". So I really don't know what to expect, I've decided I am going to court (early start for me in the morning), but I am not going into the actual court room this time for the sentancing as I don't think I can face that again.
I'm still very much in the "why did you do this / how stupid could you have been" angry phase. Maybe after tomorrow when we finally know the outcome, I'll be able to try and process that. Up to know a lot of my energy has been spent on trying to get him help for his depression which he says contributed to this. Assuming that he doesn't get a custodial sentance, then he starts CBT next week. The anti depressants appear to finally starting to work, they had to up the dose twice, it's like he's turning back into the person he was rather than the person that he'd become over the past couple of years. I have said that we need to get couples couselling at some point, it's one of my conditions on staying, but only after he's had some counselling of his own first.
I guess tomorrow I'll be back to figure out how I learn to deal with what will be the new norm, as somehow I think after tomorrow one way or the other life is going to be different.
He's been told to prepare for the worse case and a custodial sentance, but the barrister also said, they have to say that so that you can't come back on them and say "but you said it wouldn't be a custodial". So I really don't know what to expect, I've decided I am going to court (early start for me in the morning), but I am not going into the actual court room this time for the sentancing as I don't think I can face that again.
I'm still very much in the "why did you do this / how stupid could you have been" angry phase. Maybe after tomorrow when we finally know the outcome, I'll be able to try and process that. Up to know a lot of my energy has been spent on trying to get him help for his depression which he says contributed to this. Assuming that he doesn't get a custodial sentance, then he starts CBT next week. The anti depressants appear to finally starting to work, they had to up the dose twice, it's like he's turning back into the person he was rather than the person that he'd become over the past couple of years. I have said that we need to get couples couselling at some point, it's one of my conditions on staying, but only after he's had some counselling of his own first.
I guess tomorrow I'll be back to figure out how I learn to deal with what will be the new norm, as somehow I think after tomorrow one way or the other life is going to be different.
Mjl73, I wish you luck for tomorrow. I hope it isn't a custodial sentence and that you will be able to get couple counselling after he has started to sort his self out. I am sure all of us on here wish you well. Hope you can get some sleep. I actually feel nervous and sick for you. I think it's because I know at some stage in the future I will be doing the very same thing. The uncertainty and not knowing is a killer.
Sending love your way. Xx
Sending love your way. Xx
Thanks Dottie. I'm hoping I can sleep tonight too, I've already got that sick feeling in my stomach. I just keep repeating to myself 'atleast tomorrow the uncertainty will be over'.
Yes I suppose it's the next step forward in the process, no matter what the outcome. I hope you can get some sleep but I can only imagine how you must be feeling. It makes my stomach churn thinking about it. Part of me wants it all done and dusted and the other part is scared stiff of the outcome.
Let us know your ok after. Big hug. Xx
Let us know your ok after. Big hug. Xx
Really hoping for the best outcome for you tomorrow. X
Hi mjl73
Good luck to you both for tomorrow, I'll be thinking of you and hoping for the best.
Hope your are able to sleep a little tonight xx
Good luck to you both for tomorrow, I'll be thinking of you and hoping for the best.
Hope your are able to sleep a little tonight xx
Hi,
I too wish you both all the luck in the world. I can't imagine how your feeling, as far from that stage ourselves, but just the thought is enough.
Will be keeping everything crossed for you both. Xxx
I too wish you both all the luck in the world. I can't imagine how your feeling, as far from that stage ourselves, but just the thought is enough.
Will be keeping everything crossed for you both. Xxx
I managed to get about 3 hours sleep, not great but at least managed to get some. Now to just get through today.
He has a new barrister (not sure why it needed to change), I think I was worried about that for nothing as she is pretty switched on and I actually like her a lot more than the last one.
Thank you everyone for your support, I’ve not spoken to anyone else about this so it is good to have this forum.
He has a new barrister (not sure why it needed to change), I think I was worried about that for nothing as she is pretty switched on and I actually like her a lot more than the last one.
Thank you everyone for your support, I’ve not spoken to anyone else about this so it is good to have this forum.
Good luck for this afternoon...you are doing so well holding it together. X
I am so glad this stage is over. 16 months suspended for 2 years and SHPO. I didn’t go into the court room so it was a bit of a worrying wait to see if he would come back out or not.
I can’t imagine how you both are feeling, probably a truly exhausting day, I hope things will settle down soon for you and you can start to live the new normal.
Sending huge hugs! I hope he realises what he has in you and your amazing support x
Sending huge hugs! I hope he realises what he has in you and your amazing support x
Hi mjl73. I'm sure you are glad the wait is over. How are you feeling with the sentence? Does your husband have a job? X
Sorry forgot to also ask if he has to do probation? I dont really understand the regs for a suspended sentence x
Mjl73, so glad this stage is over for you and it wasn't a custodial. I hope you can now start rebuilding your lives. Well done for being so strong.
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Hi Rainbow - The suspended sentance was the best we could hope based on the charges (online communication and arranging to meet) .I'm not 100% sure if he has to do probation, there is something else that he has to do, but I'm not 100% sure of the details. He has a meeting next week with the probation office where they do some sort of induction and talk through the process. So I guess maybe yes, I'm sure he'll find out for sure next week.
He put in for early retirement, it was actually something that we'd planned before all this happened. He really wasn't enjoying his job anymore, it meant he was living away from home for half the week and was definitely contributing to the depression. He's currently still living away as he needed 1 residences for his bail conditions / SHPO. The plan though is for him to move back here at some point. He's CBT that he'll start this month is also located there, and given the nightmare we had trying to get him that I want him to least have some weeks of that before moving so we don't have that battle to go through again.
He put in for early retirement, it was actually something that we'd planned before all this happened. He really wasn't enjoying his job anymore, it meant he was living away from home for half the week and was definitely contributing to the depression. He's currently still living away as he needed 1 residences for his bail conditions / SHPO. The plan though is for him to move back here at some point. He's CBT that he'll start this month is also located there, and given the nightmare we had trying to get him that I want him to least have some weeks of that before moving so we don't have that battle to go through again.
Hi mjl73
Thanks for getting back to me. It sounds as if you are getting back on track to normality which is great and I admire you for supporting your partner through this x
Thanks for getting back to me. It sounds as if you are getting back on track to normality which is great and I admire you for supporting your partner through this x
Hi Rainbow, I think we're still a long way off normality, but it does feel like we can actually start to talk about the future and make plans again. My birthday is coming up and we'd both avoided making any plans as we just didn't know where he would be but now we can at least make a plan to do something together for the day. Being suck in limbo and the whole uncertainity of the situation was just horrible. I only had 2 months of that which compared to a lot of people on here is a really short time frame, I feel for everyone who's stuck in that limbo situation not knowing when it'll end.
One week in and coming to terms with the new normal. I thought I'd keep this thread updated incase it helps anyone wondering what happens next.
He got his first home visit from the police at the beginning of the week. I was expecting them to turn up at some point, he wasn't, so it came as a bit of a shock to him. His first meeting with the probation officer was a couple of days ago, she's apparantly nice which is a relief as you only ever hear horror stories of nightmare probation officers (or maybe I've just watched too much US crime TV). She's going to kick off the process of getting him transferred to here, so I'm now awaiting a call from the local probation office to arrange a home visit.
I still haven't told my family, but I feel like I need to tell them, if only so that it doesn't get awkward at some point as my sister has children. I'm dreading telling them though, I'm hoping that they would understand why I'm sticking by him, but I know not everyone would.
He's coming to visit this weekend, bail conditions meant that he couldn't stay previously, but now he can. His probation officer arranged his meeting for next week for later in the week rather than Monday as initially planned telling him to stay here sunday night as well.
He got his first home visit from the police at the beginning of the week. I was expecting them to turn up at some point, he wasn't, so it came as a bit of a shock to him. His first meeting with the probation officer was a couple of days ago, she's apparantly nice which is a relief as you only ever hear horror stories of nightmare probation officers (or maybe I've just watched too much US crime TV). She's going to kick off the process of getting him transferred to here, so I'm now awaiting a call from the local probation office to arrange a home visit.
I still haven't told my family, but I feel like I need to tell them, if only so that it doesn't get awkward at some point as my sister has children. I'm dreading telling them though, I'm hoping that they would understand why I'm sticking by him, but I know not everyone would.
He's coming to visit this weekend, bail conditions meant that he couldn't stay previously, but now he can. His probation officer arranged his meeting for next week for later in the week rather than Monday as initially planned telling him to stay here sunday night as well.