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Just read a case where a man got a two year suspended sentence for raping two girls aged 11.
I really dont want to cause offence to anyone on the forum (that's the last thing I want to do) but I find this infuriating.
Just (seems) to me there are no guidelines used in sentencing and because this guy sobbed in the dock he wasn't given an immediate custodial.
Never condoning what my son did and yes ALL these crimes are serious, but I continue to feel the judge took a dislike to my son and the consequence was a long custodial.
is that fair?
I really dont want to cause offence to anyone on the forum (that's the last thing I want to do) but I find this infuriating.
Just (seems) to me there are no guidelines used in sentencing and because this guy sobbed in the dock he wasn't given an immediate custodial.
Never condoning what my son did and yes ALL these crimes are serious, but I continue to feel the judge took a dislike to my son and the consequence was a long custodial.
is that fair?
It beggars belief the reasoning behind some sentences the umbrella of this crime is massive and needs broken down for sure.
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That is a ridiculous sentence!. My OH has sentencing coming up, his solicitor has said it could be 1 to 3 custodial!. Yes he's commited a crime but no where near as serious as rape! And he could go to prison while this man gets a suspended!. Time to scrap the role of a judge. They are outdated, the justice system needs a massive overall and the sentences need to be reviewed!
I would be careful about any sentencing decision reported in the press. They leave out so much of the detail and they seem to have an agenda to undermine the judicial system whenever they can. Every sentence is a soft sentence for them.
There was a case reported in the press a few years ago of a man who raped a child. No mention of the fact that he had autism, ADHD and a learning disability. The sentence was referred to the court of appeal as being too lenient, but the court upheld the original judges decision.
You can read it for yourself here and decide whether, knowing all the circumstances, the judges were right or not.
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5ff7faea2c94e03f0ca6b0a9
I would also point out that sentencing is only part of the punishment. The press never mention the other things, such as the restrictions on foreign travel, not being able to visit some countries for the rest of your life, the restrictions on internet use, the unannounced police visits to your home for the next ten years, having to disclose to everyone in your life, being unable to apply for many jobs, higher insurance costs, being unable to go to certain places, or do certain activties, not being able to live at home anymore, worrying all the time about your name being googled, by people that you meet and so on.
When I hear people say that someone who received a suspended sentence was not punished at all, it makes me so mad. They don't understand the reality.
There was a case reported in the press a few years ago of a man who raped a child. No mention of the fact that he had autism, ADHD and a learning disability. The sentence was referred to the court of appeal as being too lenient, but the court upheld the original judges decision.
You can read it for yourself here and decide whether, knowing all the circumstances, the judges were right or not.
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5ff7faea2c94e03f0ca6b0a9
I would also point out that sentencing is only part of the punishment. The press never mention the other things, such as the restrictions on foreign travel, not being able to visit some countries for the rest of your life, the restrictions on internet use, the unannounced police visits to your home for the next ten years, having to disclose to everyone in your life, being unable to apply for many jobs, higher insurance costs, being unable to go to certain places, or do certain activties, not being able to live at home anymore, worrying all the time about your name being googled, by people that you meet and so on.
When I hear people say that someone who received a suspended sentence was not punished at all, it makes me so mad. They don't understand the reality.
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Thankyou Betty, I did write a lengthy comment as I feel very strongly about sentencing and the inconsistency of it all. Deleted it, dunno why! But basically I think a two year suspended sentence for rape isn't right. Yes as Edel said it's not just suspended they will have restrictions etc but they are not in prison! I know what my partner has done is very wrong but I just think the whole justice system needs a shake up and modernising
I think forum users are all well aware of the restrictions placed on sex offenders out in the community.
i know my son will be heavily restricted on release and I agree he should be monitored, there's no doubt about that.
Crimes in this area are so varied, on line viewing, distribution, contact or attempting to meet up with an underage person, the list goes on.
i just feel everything shouldn't be placed under the P umbrella, its just wrong and unfair!
i know my son will be heavily restricted on release and I agree he should be monitored, there's no doubt about that.
Crimes in this area are so varied, on line viewing, distribution, contact or attempting to meet up with an underage person, the list goes on.
i just feel everything shouldn't be placed under the P umbrella, its just wrong and unfair!
Totally agree Smile, there is no standard at all when it comes to sentencing let alone tarnishing people when there are so many variables. We have such an outdated judicial system that has not moved with the times and there appears to be a reluctance to do so.
Katie xx
Katie xx
I think any attempt to introduce more 'rigid' sentencing for sex offenders would lead to harsher sentences for absolutely everyone. I think the public would happily see automatic custodial for all IIOC / communications offences.
I no longer trust anyone.
Despite finding thousands of a b c images on husbands USB. As well as police finding thousands thumbnails on a deleted hard drive -he was charged for two cat C images.
So no real consequences for the huge numbers. He then lied in court. Despite telling a close friend he has has sexual feeling for children for decades.
He will surely try again to satisfy his needs when he's got away with it.
Some really do not get the punishment they deserve to be a true detterant.
Despite finding thousands of a b c images on husbands USB. As well as police finding thousands thumbnails on a deleted hard drive -he was charged for two cat C images.
So no real consequences for the huge numbers. He then lied in court. Despite telling a close friend he has has sexual feeling for children for decades.
He will surely try again to satisfy his needs when he's got away with it.
Some really do not get the punishment they deserve to be a true detterant.