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I am hoping for some clarification. The police attended our property early one morning and advised us that they had intelligence regarding an indecent image that had been uploaded from the IP address linked to our property.
They stated that the image had been uploaded to a platform called KIK. My partner admitted to being the owner of the KIK account there and then, and stated that he had used the app to share images of a sexual nature.
The officers stated that it was 1 image they were looking into and that it contained imagery of someone under 18. My partner has told me that he was in receipt of around 100 images whilst on this app, but he has he told me that he never did anything relating to children. He states that of all the images he viewed he didn't ever think that their age was questionable or see any pics that were obviously children.
The police have taken his phone and tablet. All other electronic devices were cleared at the house so we were able to keep them.
What happens now? If what he is saying is true and he has unwillingly looked at and shared an image of someone under age, and it is only the 1 image does he still get charged?
I am so confused, I hate him for what he has done but if he is being truthful and he has just made a mistake then I wouldn't want to see him punished. As for the state of our relationship, that will need some mulling over and again my thinking would be driven by the outcome of the forensic search and whether he has told the truth. Do the police investigate before coming to the house to clarify that someone in an image is a child? As there were about 4 months between the date they say it was uploaded and the date they came to the house.
I feel like my world has fallen apart and I don't know what to do.
I am hoping for some clarification. The police attended our property early one morning and advised us that they had intelligence regarding an indecent image that had been uploaded from the IP address linked to our property.
They stated that the image had been uploaded to a platform called KIK. My partner admitted to being the owner of the KIK account there and then, and stated that he had used the app to share images of a sexual nature.
The officers stated that it was 1 image they were looking into and that it contained imagery of someone under 18. My partner has told me that he was in receipt of around 100 images whilst on this app, but he has he told me that he never did anything relating to children. He states that of all the images he viewed he didn't ever think that their age was questionable or see any pics that were obviously children.
The police have taken his phone and tablet. All other electronic devices were cleared at the house so we were able to keep them.
What happens now? If what he is saying is true and he has unwillingly looked at and shared an image of someone under age, and it is only the 1 image does he still get charged?
I am so confused, I hate him for what he has done but if he is being truthful and he has just made a mistake then I wouldn't want to see him punished. As for the state of our relationship, that will need some mulling over and again my thinking would be driven by the outcome of the forensic search and whether he has told the truth. Do the police investigate before coming to the house to clarify that someone in an image is a child? As there were about 4 months between the date they say it was uploaded and the date they came to the house.
I feel like my world has fallen apart and I don't know what to do.
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So sorry that you are joining the 'club' no one wants to join. I am sorry I can't help you because when the police came to my house all they did was arrest my husband quoting the law he had broken and then cautioning him regarding anything he said. In less than 10 minutes (some of which was spent waiting for my husband to get dressed - it was early morning) he was taken away. By then I was in complete shock and confusion. The police would not give me any information and only wanted to search our home and ask me questions for over 2 hours. Since that day my husband has told me absolutely zero.
However, I did take a peak at some handwritten notes one of the police had with them and I believe they had been monitoring an email address and his on-line activity for weeks if not months.
So sorry that you are joining the 'club' no one wants to join. I am sorry I can't help you because when the police came to my house all they did was arrest my husband quoting the law he had broken and then cautioning him regarding anything he said. In less than 10 minutes (some of which was spent waiting for my husband to get dressed - it was early morning) he was taken away. By then I was in complete shock and confusion. The police would not give me any information and only wanted to search our home and ask me questions for over 2 hours. Since that day my husband has told me absolutely zero.
However, I did take a peak at some handwritten notes one of the police had with them and I believe they had been monitoring an email address and his on-line activity for weeks if not months.
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Sorry to read you have joined this club. In regards to the number of images found and the law in the UK. The starting point is (1) one however the severity of punishment is the category. If its classed as 'A' then it reaches the CPS custodial rules and therefore could result in imprisonment. This is rare as low numbers normally result in suspended sentence or community service with a SHPO and compulsory sex registration.
Sorry to read you have joined this club. In regards to the number of images found and the law in the UK. The starting point is (1) one however the severity of punishment is the category. If its classed as 'A' then it reaches the CPS custodial rules and therefore could result in imprisonment. This is rare as low numbers normally result in suspended sentence or community service with a SHPO and compulsory sex registration.
Thanks both.
I can't seem to find anyone on here who has been wrongfully accused or has done what my partner is saying he has done which is unknowingly looked at a child believing them to be an adult.
I can't even believe we are in this situation. Never in a million years did I believe that this would happen to us. All I can do is hope that he is telling me the truth. I have no reason to doubt him, but then I had no reason to believe that 5 police officers would knock my door.
I just want it all to end. I'm drowning.
I can't seem to find anyone on here who has been wrongfully accused or has done what my partner is saying he has done which is unknowingly looked at a child believing them to be an adult.
I can't even believe we are in this situation. Never in a million years did I believe that this would happen to us. All I can do is hope that he is telling me the truth. I have no reason to doubt him, but then I had no reason to believe that 5 police officers would knock my door.
I just want it all to end. I'm drowning.
I should add that they have said it is 1 category B image. X
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I hope you are taking care of your health and the fears you are currently experiencing. You might interested in reading what the uk sentencing council have agreed to re images. A category B image is non-penetrative sexual activity. The maximum sentence is 26 weeks in custody however this is extremely rare and the standard punishment is a suspended prison sentence or community service order with a compulsory SHPO and sex registration for 5 years.
I hope you are taking care of your health and the fears you are currently experiencing. You might interested in reading what the uk sentencing council have agreed to re images. A category B image is non-penetrative sexual activity. The maximum sentence is 26 weeks in custody however this is extremely rare and the standard punishment is a suspended prison sentence or community service order with a compulsory SHPO and sex registration for 5 years.
What does SHPO mean?
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Sexual Harm Prevention Order... This is normally drafted in liaison with police and probation and can stipulate conditions on internet use... no deleting of internet history... registration of all internet devices... residential addresses... persons under 18..etc
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What do we do now then? We are now a short while beyond the initial home visit by the police and everything just seems bleak. My partner, from the moment this came to light until now maintains that he was not aware of any imagery that contained children.
I fluctuate between believing and doubting him. I feel horrendous so God knows how he feels. I just want it all to go away.
What do we do now then? We are now a short while beyond the initial home visit by the police and everything just seems bleak. My partner, from the moment this came to light until now maintains that he was not aware of any imagery that contained children.
I fluctuate between believing and doubting him. I feel horrendous so God knows how he feels. I just want it all to go away.
I'm so sorry your now in limbo... We have all been there... The wait for forensic results takes ages... My partner was given a 12 month suspended sentence after they found 4 movie clips. Two had been viewed and two immediately deleted but because they had been downloaded the offence was complete. No evidence of illegal sites or prepubicement children but they were teenagers. As I've stated on this site the UK law is anyone under 18 is a child. They are still victims and his use of a file sharing system got us to this nightmare...
Thanks snowdrop. Guess the only thing to do now is wait. After A LOT of Googling pretty sure we aren't looking at a custodial sentence, but all that is weighted on him having told me the truth.
How did you even begin to rebuild your lives? We have no children so that isn't an issue, but if we wanted children in the future it clearly would become an issue. Or would it? I don't know and I think the hardest thing is, we won't know until the police are ready to tell us. It's an awful game of wait and see.
How did you even begin to rebuild your lives? We have no children so that isn't an issue, but if we wanted children in the future it clearly would become an issue. Or would it? I don't know and I think the hardest thing is, we won't know until the police are ready to tell us. It's an awful game of wait and see.
Sorry to read you are also a member of this club but you have found the right place for support, please remember the helpline is always there for advice and a listening ear when you are ready.
My partner is accused of an online communication offence and it’s hard to tell what the future holds, we do have children and depending on the outcome children’s services will become involved again. I am only 3 months post knock with no information if any devices have been checked or indeed if there is more than was was told on the day. My partner tells me his version of events but I am more than prepared there is another side to this story but he is trying to save face and embarrassment. Other ladies can share thier experience of how their partners came to have images.
I can only urge to try and take it one day and a time you will have a rollercoaster of emotions over the next few months, some say it gets better/numb but I can’t say that’s the case for me. There is no right or wrong way to react or feel some leave some stay some aren’t making any decisions. Please keep using this forum and taking care of yourself - that is the most important thing. I would also say be cautious who you tell at this stage keep it close.
Stay strong! X
My partner is accused of an online communication offence and it’s hard to tell what the future holds, we do have children and depending on the outcome children’s services will become involved again. I am only 3 months post knock with no information if any devices have been checked or indeed if there is more than was was told on the day. My partner tells me his version of events but I am more than prepared there is another side to this story but he is trying to save face and embarrassment. Other ladies can share thier experience of how their partners came to have images.
I can only urge to try and take it one day and a time you will have a rollercoaster of emotions over the next few months, some say it gets better/numb but I can’t say that’s the case for me. There is no right or wrong way to react or feel some leave some stay some aren’t making any decisions. Please keep using this forum and taking care of yourself - that is the most important thing. I would also say be cautious who you tell at this stage keep it close.
Stay strong! X
We've made a joint decision to not tell anyone until we know what we are dealing with because
A.) From the looks of things this could take a while and i can't answer anyone's questions
B.) I am holding on to all hope that this is down to what he says it is down to, and all fall out will be kept to a minimum.
I just want to have a day where I don't feel physically sick.
A.) From the looks of things this could take a while and i can't answer anyone's questions
B.) I am holding on to all hope that this is down to what he says it is down to, and all fall out will be kept to a minimum.
I just want to have a day where I don't feel physically sick.
Please remember you have done nothing wrong, you may need someone to support you or give you a real hug. Unfortunately this won’t go away anytime soon, based others stories, we were told 2 months for some devices and still nothing. Every area is different for processing, just take it day by day. I never thought either this was coming to my door I don’t think many of us did. I’m just waiting for any charges then I will know if he ha been honest or not and what I am dealing with. Xx
Same as me Summer. I have told him that if he has been honest then my current thinking would be to stay. But he also knows that I could change my mind at any given time. If he has lied, then it will just be the final nail in the coffin - I can't imagine having to go through feeling like this again which is what will happen if I find out things further down the line.
What on earth did we do to deserve this :(
What on earth did we do to deserve this :(
Another victim of the KIK app, that's how my husband ended up in such a hole. I think many have from KIK. Unfortunately 1 image or 1000 the crime with still be punishable. The category will hold the severity of sentencing. If it has been a 100% accident where he was not aware of the age I'd the person he may be fortunate enough to receive a caution. The police will look into it, check for communication etc.
Sometimes with KIK there are several images lumped together in the file share so he may have been looking for a certain type of porn and someone has slipped in an illegal image. His solicitor will be able to advise him better. You may be one of the few lucky ones where it is an accident. I hope you are x
Sometimes with KIK there are several images lumped together in the file share so he may have been looking for a certain type of porn and someone has slipped in an illegal image. His solicitor will be able to advise him better. You may be one of the few lucky ones where it is an accident. I hope you are x
SallyBlue thank you. I hope we are too, but I am also aware that this could all come crashing down around me again if he is lying. Only time will tell. X
Hilltop478 - Hang on in there and try and take one day at a time even though it probably feels like your lives are on hold until this is all over.
Hi Hilltop
welcome to the “did he do it on purpose” club, which is a sub-group of “the knock “ club. My partner says the images he looked at were from a website which had a disclaimer saying people on there 18 or over. But he says he was looking at the “teens” section of the website. Like your partner he says he didn’t think they were children but some will have looked under 18. But he says because of the disclaimer he presumed they were models who looked under 18. So from a moral standpoint all very dodgy but from a legal standpoint , who knows?
i am 9 months in and no progress. Things I have learned so far are that the police may say someone is under 18, but if the accused person denies it then only a jury can decide if the picture is indecent (ie under 18) or not. There is some good research by Uni of Birmingham that might be helpful for your partners solicitor to have - I can send you the link - that shows how difficult it is to “age” pictures of those who are in their late teens and how the police get it wrong or don’t agree on the age.
What did you partneer say at interview?
welcome to the “did he do it on purpose” club, which is a sub-group of “the knock “ club. My partner says the images he looked at were from a website which had a disclaimer saying people on there 18 or over. But he says he was looking at the “teens” section of the website. Like your partner he says he didn’t think they were children but some will have looked under 18. But he says because of the disclaimer he presumed they were models who looked under 18. So from a moral standpoint all very dodgy but from a legal standpoint , who knows?
i am 9 months in and no progress. Things I have learned so far are that the police may say someone is under 18, but if the accused person denies it then only a jury can decide if the picture is indecent (ie under 18) or not. There is some good research by Uni of Birmingham that might be helpful for your partners solicitor to have - I can send you the link - that shows how difficult it is to “age” pictures of those who are in their late teens and how the police get it wrong or don’t agree on the age.
What did you partneer say at interview?
Hi Bigsigh
He hasn't been interviewed yet, which is what I can't understand. I've started a thread called my story on with more information, have a look and see what you think? It's all madness and chaos that none of us bloody deserve!
He hasn't been interviewed yet, which is what I can't understand. I've started a thread called my story on with more information, have a look and see what you think? It's all madness and chaos that none of us bloody deserve!
Hi Sally Blue,
We are a KIK app victim too.
It's been a week today since my life went into autopilot of pretending everything is fine for our children (9yr G and 2yr B) he uses the app to look at and share porn but did say and tell the police that whilst looking at porn on there a video did come up of a child but he scrolled passed it and didn't use the app again. I want to and do believe him. It happened in March, 1 image and its apparently a Cat C. We've been told the investigation on his phone will be 6 weeks but seeing the stories on here where weeks turnt into months fills me with dread! They only took his phone and no other device. I can't wait for this to be over already!
We are a KIK app victim too.
It's been a week today since my life went into autopilot of pretending everything is fine for our children (9yr G and 2yr B) he uses the app to look at and share porn but did say and tell the police that whilst looking at porn on there a video did come up of a child but he scrolled passed it and didn't use the app again. I want to and do believe him. It happened in March, 1 image and its apparently a Cat C. We've been told the investigation on his phone will be 6 weeks but seeing the stories on here where weeks turnt into months fills me with dread! They only took his phone and no other device. I can't wait for this to be over already!