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JulieM

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July 2023

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Posted Sat May 18, 2024 9:30amReport post

So, my ex was up for four years in prison. The judge gave him a two year suspended sentence, community service, ten years on the Sex Offenders Register and a fine, which he told his father he would need his help paying! The cheek!

He originally pleaded guilty to five of the seven charges of distribution and possession of IIOC (and animals!). Over 1,600 images were retrieved of which over 60 were Category A. The more serious offences weren't related to the IIOC but were the facilitating charges to do with a chatroom conversation with a police decoy.

What I don't understand is why don't the courts insist on counselling for Offenders? I suspect if he had gone to prison he would have been offered counselling to address his 'problem'. Picking up rubbish along the highway isn't going to help him realise he has a serious mental illness that needs addressing. I now realise my ex is a malignant narcissist with no empathy or morals. He is in complete denial of his mental illness, and sadly certain other crimes have now been identified, and what the police caught him doing was an escalation of his mental illness. I honestly dread to think what he might have done if the police hadn't caught him.

My ex is definitely not one of the 'low hanging fruit'. He is a danger to the public, and unfortunately the judge didn't realise that.

Distressed and pregnant

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November 2020

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Posted Sat May 18, 2024 11:03amReport post

Hi,

counselling isn't generally offered in prison either. There seems to be very little in the way of rehabilitation unless the offender or families find it themselves.

Do you know if the horizon course is part of his sentencing plan? This was beneficial to my partner, as was the engage plus course by lff. It helps them to recognise potential triggers that lead to offending xxx

JulieM

Member since
July 2023

76 posts

Posted Sat May 18, 2024 11:44amReport post

Distressed and pregnant,

I don't think there's been any form of counselling as part of his sentence.

K4

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October 2022

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Posted Sat May 18, 2024 11:47amReport post

As part of suspended sentence, probation will manage him and that will include some level of counselling and support (probably horizon).

LittleRobin3

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April 2024

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Posted Sat May 18, 2024 3:49pmReport post

My ex got three years in prison for the same offences. There was no counselling in prison whatsoever. They send the offender for counselling in case, by some miracle, it stops them reoffending. However, my ex didn't get any counselling and I don't know of any others who have either.

Edited Sat May 18, 2024 3:51pm

LittleRobin3

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April 2024

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Posted Sat May 18, 2024 3:53pmReport post

Did you write to the Judge to tell them what your thoughts were? I did. Made no difference at all but the Judge said my letter was beautifully written and obviously from the heart.

AnxiousGirl

Member since
December 2023

222 posts

Posted Sat May 18, 2024 4:07pmReport post

My ex was offered no help whilst in prison and to the best of my knowledge non since he has been released.

Upset mum

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June 2020

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Posted Sat May 18, 2024 5:00pmReport post

I know my son and several other guys who are in prison have not had any counselling the prison dont even consider any programs until at least a year before they are due release

While under investigation my son paid privately for a therapist who deals with these types of offences, and I have to say his therapist was amazing, weekly sessions then byweekly then when he was given a custodial sentance nothing since!

Smile through tears

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September 2021

2556 posts

Posted Sat May 18, 2024 9:38pmReport post

Yep - in prison my son (up to press) has been offered no counselling or treatment programmes which I think should be ongoing from day 1......

it needs addressing asap not just lock offenders up and throw away the key. These men need help.

JulieM

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July 2023

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Posted Tue May 21, 2024 4:55pmReport post

Thank you all for your replies. I think it’s truly shocking that there's no counselling offered to prisoners. I paid for my ex and I to have private therapy mainly separately, but speaking to my therapist at my last session she said he made no effort to address his crimes at any point during the therapy. Perhaps in prison if they were offered therapy they wouldn't be allowed to evade it. How are these men supposed to accept and change if they're not offered specific counselling?