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We're at a point where we seem to have reached a stale mate. Police & Probation will not agree to Social Services plan if unsupervised contact is left in there. Even though social services have made it clear they are happy I can manage the risk and protect our daughter. Meetings keep happening going over the same thing and it's just getting mentally tiring and is preventing social services from closing us from CIN.
My only option is to send an email out to our SW, their manager, police & probation drawing up my own plan and declining social services involvement any further. As far as I am concerned, there is nothing anyone can do as it is based on "risk" "feelings" and "statistics".
Just to add, husband lives at home and everyone is well aware that technically while I am sleeping, my husband is unsupervised.
Has anyone had any experience with this and know what possible repercussions are for declining SS involvement?
My only option is to send an email out to our SW, their manager, police & probation drawing up my own plan and declining social services involvement any further. As far as I am concerned, there is nothing anyone can do as it is based on "risk" "feelings" and "statistics".
Just to add, husband lives at home and everyone is well aware that technically while I am sleeping, my husband is unsupervised.
Has anyone had any experience with this and know what possible repercussions are for declining SS involvement?
Hi,
does your oh have a no unsupervised contact unless approved by ss and probation in his SHPO?
If he doesn't then technically no permission is needed apart from yours as your child's primary carer xxx
does your oh have a no unsupervised contact unless approved by ss and probation in his SHPO?
If he doesn't then technically no permission is needed apart from yours as your child's primary carer xxx
No he doesn't have anything like that in his SHPO at all. It's all Internet and device based.
This is what our SW emailed us today, following on from their meeting yesterday......
In a nut shell, probation do not feel it is appropriate to have unsupervised and whilst they recognised that it is not part of your conditions, they have shared that they feel by not having the unsupervised in place means it encourages and increases the risk. We have requested they let us know what would constitute as a breach and what this would mean for your conditions. They have shared that whilst you have not been removed from the home you did receive a sentence and feel that this needs to be considered.
Even though since his sentence over a year ago now, he is working hard, everything he is doing is positive, no concerns etc and I have completed the breaking the cycle course.
As far as I am concerned they are not telling is anything we don't already know, we're going round in circles and I've now reached a point where there is nothing more social can do, police and probation have their narrative and are sticking to it, so I now need to put my foot down.
Xx
This is what our SW emailed us today, following on from their meeting yesterday......
In a nut shell, probation do not feel it is appropriate to have unsupervised and whilst they recognised that it is not part of your conditions, they have shared that they feel by not having the unsupervised in place means it encourages and increases the risk. We have requested they let us know what would constitute as a breach and what this would mean for your conditions. They have shared that whilst you have not been removed from the home you did receive a sentence and feel that this needs to be considered.
Even though since his sentence over a year ago now, he is working hard, everything he is doing is positive, no concerns etc and I have completed the breaking the cycle course.
As far as I am concerned they are not telling is anything we don't already know, we're going round in circles and I've now reached a point where there is nothing more social can do, police and probation have their narrative and are sticking to it, so I now need to put my foot down.
Xx
Have you looked at the factors on Oasys and risk matrix that they use to assess? I would probably do that and acknowledge that in your email.
Obviously you are aware of the risk involved in unsupervised access. Detail everything you have put in place in your family safety plan to mitigate those risks; blocked sites on Wi-Fi, educating yourself and your child etc.
I would also state their knowledge of what you were working with ss to achieve and their change in mindset without any indication that they were going to do a complete u turn. Essentially the worst that will happen from you exercising your rights as a parent is that they increase your oh's risk level and put in another referral to ss. There are timescales involved in doing that so you should have the same sw xxx
Obviously you are aware of the risk involved in unsupervised access. Detail everything you have put in place in your family safety plan to mitigate those risks; blocked sites on Wi-Fi, educating yourself and your child etc.
I would also state their knowledge of what you were working with ss to achieve and their change in mindset without any indication that they were going to do a complete u turn. Essentially the worst that will happen from you exercising your rights as a parent is that they increase your oh's risk level and put in another referral to ss. There are timescales involved in doing that so you should have the same sw xxx
I had to Google oasys as I had no idea what that was! My oh has never been shown his risk assessment. He knows that his pre sentencing report was low but has no idea what his current risk assement info with his PO is.
Because ss have written a plan before happily removing supervised contact because they are happy with the knowledge I have, I can recognise signs of risk and protect our daughter I will also use that. It's only police & probation that aren't happy with it and I truly think they are now clutching at straws because they don't know what to do and using the fact that "he has been sentenced and this must be taken into account" he was sentenced over a year ago and we've been working with ss since sentencing to remove supervision.
Because ss have written a plan before happily removing supervised contact because they are happy with the knowledge I have, I can recognise signs of risk and protect our daughter I will also use that. It's only police & probation that aren't happy with it and I truly think they are now clutching at straws because they don't know what to do and using the fact that "he has been sentenced and this must be taken into account" he was sentenced over a year ago and we've been working with ss since sentencing to remove supervision.
CIN is voluntary so you can disengage at any time, but if they think there is a risk to a young person they will try to keep you engaged. If you still refuse they may hold an initial child protection meeting and it will be discussed and decided if the case meets the criteria for child protection in which case you will be forced to comply - but in some cases this can be positive and can force people to do a bit more due to the child being on CP