Hi everyone,
My ex was arrested in January. He was bailed with conditions (no unsupervised access to children) for one month. After one month he was allowed access to my children and they have spent time with him since.
There are no charges as yet but it's likely possession and making of IIOC over all 3 categories. 300 images in total.
He will definitely be on SOR and have a SHPO. What's the likely hood of the SHPO saying he can't have unsupervised access to children.
Ss and the police know he's seeing them now unsupervised and haven't raised any concerns about this.
I just trying to work out if I should be prepared for that access to stop.
Thank you. Love and strength to all. X
My ex was arrested in January. He was bailed with conditions (no unsupervised access to children) for one month. After one month he was allowed access to my children and they have spent time with him since.
There are no charges as yet but it's likely possession and making of IIOC over all 3 categories. 300 images in total.
He will definitely be on SOR and have a SHPO. What's the likely hood of the SHPO saying he can't have unsupervised access to children.
Ss and the police know he's seeing them now unsupervised and haven't raised any concerns about this.
I just trying to work out if I should be prepared for that access to stop.
Thank you. Love and strength to all. X
Did SS do a family assessment and sign you off stating he could have unsupervised access? They are likely to reopen the case after the charges. Things can change then. Keep an open dialogue with them in the meantime. Make sure everything is documented and you do have written evidence to show they said he could be unsupervised. You can use this in the next stage if necessary.
From what I have read on here, you can not predict what they will do. Each authority is different and each SW also will have different opinions.
Have either of you done any courses (him regarding the IIOC and you regarding child protection?) And have you a safety plan in place? These are things I see are common for women (and their partners) who are on here to do.
From what I have read on here, you can not predict what they will do. Each authority is different and each SW also will have different opinions.
Have either of you done any courses (him regarding the IIOC and you regarding child protection?) And have you a safety plan in place? These are things I see are common for women (and their partners) who are on here to do.
SHPOs are very common, but they should not be seen as inevitable. It's down to the barrister being willing to argue with the judge about what should be in the SHPO, or even if an SHPO is required at all.
For non contact offences, there should be no restrictions in the SHPO regarding contact with children. But even where contact restrictions are imposed, there should still be exemptions for the person's own children, because of their human right to family life.
If SS are involved and there is a safety plan in place then supervised contact should always be permitted. Unsupervised is a slightly different matter. But if the plan is good enough, then the barrister can say to the judge that further restrictions in the SHPO are not needed, because its already been dealt with by the safety plan. An SHPO should not duplicate other restrictions that are already in place.
My advice would be to ask to see the SHPO before agreeing to it, read every word carefully and instruct the barrister to challenge anything you regard as unnecessary or unfair.
For non contact offences, there should be no restrictions in the SHPO regarding contact with children. But even where contact restrictions are imposed, there should still be exemptions for the person's own children, because of their human right to family life.
If SS are involved and there is a safety plan in place then supervised contact should always be permitted. Unsupervised is a slightly different matter. But if the plan is good enough, then the barrister can say to the judge that further restrictions in the SHPO are not needed, because its already been dealt with by the safety plan. An SHPO should not duplicate other restrictions that are already in place.
My advice would be to ask to see the SHPO before agreeing to it, read every word carefully and instruct the barrister to challenge anything you regard as unnecessary or unfair.
Thank you. Social services and the police have all safeguarding responsibility to me. Nobody had any assessments and I had no guidance or advice about what to do. Nobody mentioned a family safety plan I only found out about that by looking on the LFF site. The police just told me ex that's it's up to me if he sees the children.
But from reading here it seems most people have some kind of restrictions.
I'm speaking to the social worker on Thursday. I'll ask about all the points above. Any thing else I need to consider.
Ive done child protection through work and I'm going to do the course that stop it now offer.
My ex is a total ostrich, head in the sand and hoping it goes away. Doubt I'll get to see the SHPO before court and I doubt he'll challenge it!
This is a total nightmare.
Thank you for your replies. X
But from reading here it seems most people have some kind of restrictions.
I'm speaking to the social worker on Thursday. I'll ask about all the points above. Any thing else I need to consider.
Ive done child protection through work and I'm going to do the course that stop it now offer.
My ex is a total ostrich, head in the sand and hoping it goes away. Doubt I'll get to see the SHPO before court and I doubt he'll challenge it!
This is a total nightmare.
Thank you for your replies. X