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LisaMargeMaggie

Member since
July 2024

311 posts

Those whose people got custodial sentences - not suspended - I'd be very grateful for brief outline of what their offences were, and how long the sentence was. I'm trying to inform myself, and gauge possible outcomes for my person. I've trawled the forum and not quite found the info I'm looking for. I've familiarised myself with the sentencing guidelines which lead me to fear the worst...

thank you x

Posted Thu August 15, 2024 1:51pmReport post

Caggie164

Member since
October 2023

374 posts

It really is a worry. We are still at the investigation stage but I also fear the worse outcome. From what I've read it is very much luck of the draw. My best friends brother is a police officer and even he has said it can even come down to the mood of the judge on the day which doesn't seem right but it happens.

Posted Thu August 15, 2024 3:56pmReport post

Ocean

Member since
September 2023

992 posts

Hi Lisa, I completely understand your need for information but think there are so many variables to each case that it makes predicting an outcome near on impossible. For example, the age of the child and the victim impact are taken into consideration but you may not know the degree of harm until sentencing.

My son was told to prepare for custodial as it was a real possibility. He went to court with his prison bag packed, and was very fortunate to receive a 2 year suspended sentence which I believe was down to the fact there was no victim impact statement, the overcrowding of the prisons, his pre sentence report, the fact he had fully admitted his guilt during his arrest, the fact he had completed the LFF course and modules and down to the judge he had on the day.

Posted Thu August 15, 2024 5:27pmReport post

LisaMargeMaggie

Member since
July 2024

311 posts

Thanks Caggie and Ocean. I'm particularly concerned about incitement, and the sheer volume of... stuff.
FFS where did he find the bloody time for this - I was working myself into the ground with my job and motherhood and trying to be a decent wife. Resentment and rage are the prevailing emotions.

Posted Thu August 15, 2024 6:01pmReport post

Ginluver

Member since
April 2023

80 posts

Hi, my ex partner first offence got 28 month custodial sentence, under 20 images viewed and distributed in chats online . He also communicated with a 14 year old in sexual chat. It was unexpected the sentence as all the way through the officer in charge and solicitor thought he would get suspended sentence but the judge was harsh I feel. I've known peoples charges being worse in the group and they got suspended sentences so you just never know on the day what the judge will decide. I wish you well and hope for the best possible outcome. X

Posted Thu August 15, 2024 8:24pmReport post

LisaMargeMaggie

Member since
July 2024

311 posts

Ginlover, thank you. I'm sorry your person's sentence was so harsh. Were you together at the time of the knock / sentencing?
I need to step back from trying to predict the future - the range of sentences and factors the judge will consider make it impossible to gauge. I just hate what I'm being put through, and am desperate for some control. I'm realising the things I can control aren't about HIS outcome, but MY day to day life and my children's wellbeing.

Posted Thu August 15, 2024 8:31pmReport post

Ginluver

Member since
April 2023

80 posts

I decided to leave when I got the knock, I couldn't trust him and lost all respect for him for what he had done and what he had put us through. I think it's hard not to worry about the outcome of sentencing I worried for nearly 2 year being in limbo as to what would happen. It's been so hard as I am now a single parent having to financially support myself and my children we used to be such a happy family until the knock, but I try my best to move forward now with my life and try and accept u can't turn back the clocks on what has been done. Sending strength to you through this journey no one wants to be on. X

Posted Thu August 15, 2024 11:39pmReport post

Holdingthegrenade

Member since
June 2024

257 posts

Ginluver

That must have been so hard. Thank you for sharing. Can I ask whether you have any help/support or advice on how to help the children/what to tell them? That is my biggest worry. My child has a very close bond with their father, until the knock (especially with Covid etc) they never went a day without spending time together. I'm very worried about the effect on them. It's going to absolutely destroy them, and like everything else the job of breaking the bad news and handing all the fall out is going to be down to me......equally I don't want to worry them about something that might not happen. I want to save them from any unnecessary hurt or trauma if I can avoid it and "daddy might have to go to jail" is certainly going to do that.

Posted Sat August 17, 2024 12:39pmReport post

Ginluver

Member since
April 2023

80 posts

Hi holding the grenade, I didn't tell mine daddy could go to prison but I then told them when he did as felt I had too as I couldn't lie why he had suddenly vanished and couldn't see them anymore, they have only just recently started having phone contact with dad after 4 months of him being sent to prison due to assessment by social services and prison service having to be done been very difficult them keep asking when they can speak to dad. When he was arrested they were told dad had done something wrong and had broke internet safety rules they were upset when we were no longer living together but they adapted to just seeing him on a Sunday at there grandparents house. Sometimes I feel why has this happened to us and feel really mad but trying not to let the anger ruin my life and just get on with mine and the kids life as best as I can and I am now used to being on my own this is my new normal that I am a single parent now. Sending strength through this extremely difficult time. X

Posted Sat August 17, 2024 11:14pmReport post

NightmareScenario

Member since
August 2024

5 posts

@LittleRobin3

It seems a bit harsh for only possession / making charge to get 3 years. Can I ask if there were any distribution / communication charges?

From the research I've done, I've not seen a case where one gets a straight custodial for a first offence of possession. Was it a guilty plea?

Posted Sun August 18, 2024 8:28pmReport post

hpl111

Member since
November 2022

405 posts

It's true that a suspended sentence or community order is more likely for a first offence, but that's not a guarantee that a custodial won't happen.

Some judges want to make examples of our people and are incredibly harsh.

Posted Wed August 21, 2024 2:10pmReport post

LisaMargeMaggie

Member since
July 2024

311 posts

Hi Hpl111 and LittleRobin.
I'm really concerned about the amount of contact and incitement my person may have committed. First offence but so much technology to go through going back years.
He's also a First Class graduate with a decent career, lovely wife (I like to think), amazing children and such an incredible work ethic, I just can't fathom it all. There was no 'moment of weakness' here.
I've just sighed up to the LFF Inform course as I've gone from hectic but happy family life as a professional, to absolute chaos with social services involvement and possible prison to contend with. I'm at a loss.

Posted Wed August 21, 2024 2:24pmReport post

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