What do the different offence terms mean?
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What do the different offence terms mean?
I understand making/distributing, and communication is obviously talking to (what they think is) a child. What is a "contact" offence I've seen talked about on here? Is that physical contact or contacting as in communication?
And category images. A is obviously worse than C, but where does cat C images of the person's own infant child fall on the scale? Is that seen by the judge as a worse offence?
I'm just trying to figure out how serious my person's crime is. I'm so confused and have been given very little information.
I've been told that it counts as an "online offence" even though the person took photos of children they knew rather than got them off the internet. Is anyone in the same boat? I'd really love to have people to talk to! Please DM me (if they're working?! I don't know how to get messages to work.)
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I understand making/distributing, and communication is obviously talking to (what they think is) a child. What is a "contact" offence I've seen talked about on here? Is that physical contact or contacting as in communication?
And category images. A is obviously worse than C, but where does cat C images of the person's own infant child fall on the scale? Is that seen by the judge as a worse offence?
I'm just trying to figure out how serious my person's crime is. I'm so confused and have been given very little information.
I've been told that it counts as an "online offence" even though the person took photos of children they knew rather than got them off the internet. Is anyone in the same boat? I'd really love to have people to talk to! Please DM me (if they're working?! I don't know how to get messages to work.)
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Hi, I would say it's physical contact of an indecent nature with a child under 18. X
Hi, I'm not sure if legally there's a difference whether the child is it isn't known to the adult, however, it would definitely be flagged in court. It would be used to determine how much of a risk the person is with regard to SHPO etc. Social Services would see it as the most serious I would think but I'm not 100% sure. X
And it wouldn't just be child abuse images, it would be child sexual abuse which is a different thing. I'm sorry. When the police took our family pc, I had thousands of family photos on there and some were of my son aged about 4, naked but they were completely innocent and not sexual in nature. They were of my son and I baking and there was flour everywhere. Police mentioned it was the only photo flagged up as involving me and a naked child, rolls eyes
Communication is seen as a contact offence. The sentencing depends on what kind of communication was involved, with inciting being the most common one that we see on here.
In terms of images, a person taking of photos of a child would come under production, not making. That's a more serious offence and I suppose voyeurism might also be considered if the child was photographed without their knowledge.
Category C is the least serious, but the age of the child in the picture affects the sentencing as well.
In terms of images, a person taking of photos of a child would come under production, not making. That's a more serious offence and I suppose voyeurism might also be considered if the child was photographed without their knowledge.
Category C is the least serious, but the age of the child in the picture affects the sentencing as well.
Hi,
a contact offence can mean communication too.
Category C images can involve nudity or partial nudity. There was someone on here who had police and ss turn up at the house and say they'd found cat C images and they'd been sent by her. It was images and videos that probably most parents and grandparents would have rather than anything sinister in nature.
In the case of your person taking photos of children that he knows, especially cat C ones there needs to be more known about the intent behind it. If it is photos where the child is posed in a way to suggest sexualising them then this would be classed as producing iioc. However, if it is of a nude or partially nude infant or toddler who is not in an unnatural pose then I would think there is a case to be argued to have those thrown out of the charges xxx
a contact offence can mean communication too.
Category C images can involve nudity or partial nudity. There was someone on here who had police and ss turn up at the house and say they'd found cat C images and they'd been sent by her. It was images and videos that probably most parents and grandparents would have rather than anything sinister in nature.
In the case of your person taking photos of children that he knows, especially cat C ones there needs to be more known about the intent behind it. If it is photos where the child is posed in a way to suggest sexualising them then this would be classed as producing iioc. However, if it is of a nude or partially nude infant or toddler who is not in an unnatural pose then I would think there is a case to be argued to have those thrown out of the charges xxx
Thank you, all, for explaining.
I haven't found much about production of images through google. It's all so confusing!
Unfortunately the images are not innocent family snaps so I don't think there's any getting out of it for my person. Not that I'd want them to in this case!
I haven't found much about production of images through google. It's all so confusing!
Unfortunately the images are not innocent family snaps so I don't think there's any getting out of it for my person. Not that I'd want them to in this case!