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hpl111

Member since
November 2022

401 posts

Posted Thu October 24, 2024 6:35pmReport post

So my son has started reception in Septemer 24 and I had to put on the registration form that we had previous ss.

My husband's case was NFA'ed at the beginning of October 24. Social Services still haven't been in touch, so I suppose we have to continue following the safety plan for the foreseeable future.

So far nobody at his school has brought it up.

I went to parents evening today and nothing was mentioned.

I'm glad that I don't have to explain the situation to them, but it also I find it a bit weird.

Would the school know about what happened? Have they already contacted social services? Or is there a possibility they just have filed the form away and don't know anything about it?

Thanks for your advice xx

Edited Thu October 24, 2024 6:39pm

Lastima

Member since
July 2024

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Posted Fri October 25, 2024 6:36amReport post

I will advice to go one step ahead and tell the school. Social services will call them even if the school doesn't tell you...just for your knowledge.

You don't have to feel ashamed, is not your bag. If you don't say anything then if something happens in the future, they won't back you up....trust me !

hpl111

Member since
November 2022

401 posts

Posted Fri October 25, 2024 7:35amReport post

Lastima, but I have told school.

I wrote on the registration form: "previous ss case in July 2022, case closed, please contact me if you have any further questions"

Of course I didn't put the details "indecent images" on the form, but I would have disclosed it to them, if the DSL had contacted me.

Pinkey2019

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July 2022

49 posts

Posted Fri October 25, 2024 8:54amReport post

Hi I saw your post was socail involved which you child was in nursery I k ow with my son they handed over to the school and I didn't have to say anything and was not asked anything about socail services.

hpl111

Member since
November 2022

401 posts

Posted Fri October 25, 2024 9:16amReport post

Pinkey2019, no, we didn't inform nursery.

The children were never on a child in need plan or on a child protection plan.

The social worker at the time said she would need our consent to contact nursery, and we said no.

Lastima

Member since
July 2024

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Posted Sat October 26, 2024 6:51amReport post

Sorry if got it wrong here.

You are asking about the experience to share any outcome with the school and because social services were involved?

If social services were involved, not matter much or little I think you should have an open conversation with the safeguarding/ head of the school. Doesn't matter if was NFA.

Everything is in records and if something happens again it will appear...trust me...abd it will backfire on you not the offenders.

When my OH offended, I didn't said anything to our school and 6 weeks later and incident happened to my daughter. Then, they mentioned that the social services call them and told them everything.

When things are in records ....is in records...the schools will know even when none one contact you to ask!!

hpl111

Member since
November 2022

401 posts

Posted Sat October 26, 2024 9:00amReport post

Hi Lastima, I have already told the school in writing. I haven't given them details to the nature of the offence, but I disclosed the previous ss case and wrote that they could contact me if they had any further questions and I put down my phone number.

So there's no need for me to approach the safeguarding lead for "an open conversation". If he wanted to have one, he could contact me. I'm not hiding, he sees me at the school drop off and pick up everyday.

I think your case was different - you haven't told school at all about the ss involvement. I did.

The reason why I posted my question on this forum was because I was surprised that school hadn't talked to me yet. I wonder if they already contacted social services and see no need to speak to me?

Edited Sat October 26, 2024 9:01am

Distressed and pregnant

Member since
November 2020

1044 posts

Posted Sat October 26, 2024 10:38amReport post

Hi,

I disclosed ss involvement but also went into details with the class teacher back in July on our initial getting to know you call. We're now a half term into the school year and despite a meeting and emails I'm still waiting for them to contact ss for their opinion on whether my partner can attend parents evenings, performances and collect all alongside myself. The dsl was happy to take my word that the case was closed. They are only contacting ss as they were unsure about my request and passed it over to the safeguarding lead for the academy group who is requesting further information from ss xxx

hpl111

Member since
November 2022

401 posts

Posted Sat October 26, 2024 11:34amReport post

Hi Distressed, the first time I spoke to the class teacher was on Thursday during parents evening.

She only spoke about his progress, his behaviour and how he settled into school.

It wouldn't have been the right setting anyway to discuss this as parents evening was in a massive hall with lots of tables where parents sat.xxx

Kitty42

Member since
October 2024

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Posted Sat October 26, 2024 11:42amReport post

Yet again there is no consistency with anyone. We managed a year of no unsupervised contact whilst under investigation, but OH could still pick up & attend everything with me at school.

Now 6 weeks post sentencing we are still going round in circles with probation & offender manager about what constitutes contact/communication within the SHPO & what is "unavoidable in everyday life" We were assured by the solicitor that school drop offs were everyday life, but after having done full disclosure to the school (before probation did it) we have yesterday been told he is no longer allowed on school premises at all.

(Plus SS are due back round to start their next review, after closing the case post initial arrest)

I'm planning on staying in bed for the next 7 years. Can't see a way through this at the moment.

I'd read so many positive outcomes on here that I'd stupidly got my hopes up of a vaguely normal life.

Sorry for the rant xx

hpl111

Member since
November 2022

401 posts

Posted Sat October 26, 2024 12:09pmReport post

Kitty42, the problem is that no matter what the solicitor tells you, the school can still make their own "house rules" and ban people from school grounds as they see fit.

My husband had no bail conditions and has now been NFAed, but I fully expected the school to tell me that he's not welcome on school grounds. Nothing so far xx

Ocean

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September 2023

794 posts

Posted Sat October 26, 2024 6:04pmReport post

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here but I can't see why the school would need to mention the previous SS involvement with you.

If your child was on a child protection plan SS would contact the school for an update but unless the school had concerns regarding your child they would have no reason to liaise with SS.

I also can't see any reason why the school wouldn't let your OH on the school grounds. You might want to check the school policy but if hes not got bail restrictions, is not on the SOR and doesn't have a SHPO I can't think why they would have concerns.

As I say, I might be missing the point so apologies if thats the case.

hpl111

Member since
November 2022

401 posts

Posted Sat October 26, 2024 9:34pmReport post

Ocean, you're making a good point.

I've checked the school webpage and didn't find any policy.

I suppose technically he could come on school grounds as it was NFA, but I told him not to - this will just make our life easier and he will protect himself more than anything else.

The problem is that most people think there's no smoke without fire when it comes to these offences.

Ocean

Member since
September 2023

794 posts

Posted Sat October 26, 2024 10:47pmReport post

Sadly, people are going to think what they want to think and we have no control over it. I try to remember that other peoples judgements say a lot more about them than they do about the person their judging.

My son is on the SOR and has a SHPO and is now allowed on the school grounds with supervision (his SHPO states 'no unsupervised contact with under 18's).

I sometimes think we spend a lot more time thinking about what 'other' people think than those 'other' people spend thinking about us.