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Eye of storm

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May 2024

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Posted Fri October 25, 2024 11:05pmReport post

Hi all, wondering if anyone has any experiences to share on any of your people where charges have been made for fantasy chat with another adult? I've seen a post on here but it's from 2018 and appreciate the laws and charging will have changed in that time.

This won’t beat me

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October 2024

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Posted Sat October 26, 2024 12:38pmReport post

Hi,

First post for me.
This is also my situation. Knock 20th August. Arrested for 1:1 conversation on KIK app with another adult. Subject of conversation involved fantasy involving a fantasy girl under 18. No sharing of IIOC in chat, no chat with under 18.
Waiting for devices to be checked for IIOC.
Not naive and know they may still find other things on device, but if not I have no idea where we stand.

Like everyone else, so many unknowns.

hope you're ok

Edited Sun October 27, 2024 10:41pm

SAL

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December 2021

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Posted Sat October 26, 2024 5:09pmReport post

Unfortunately this was my experience. My partner had a conversation online, with an adult porting to be the mother of a child. He was sentenced in 2022.

The charge will be very much dependent as to whether it was clear the chat was fantasy or role play. If it was explicitly clear that this was the case then the charge is likely to be for an obscene publication.

If it was not explicit that it was a fantasy or role play conversation, it will be treated as intent. My partner had a conversation was treated as the latter.

Edited Sat October 26, 2024 5:12pm

Tryingtobebrave

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July 2024

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Posted Sun October 27, 2024 6:31amReport post

If you don't mind me asking what was the sentence he got?



OH had a fantasy conversation with another adult on KIK and when he was arrested the officer did say it was all just fantasy but still waiting on him being charged, which should be next year.

Eye of storm

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May 2024

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Posted Sun October 27, 2024 9:42amReport post

Thanks SAL. I've seen the police's comments on the request they made for a bail extension (which was refused) and they referred to the offence as fantasy chat, so I'm praying for the lesser of the two, but who knows if the prosecution build up more around it. Thank goodness we have the support and advice of a good solicitor to help us navigate the legalities.

SAL

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December 2021

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Posted Mon October 28, 2024 9:07amReport post

For me it feels like such a grey area. He 100% shouldn't have had the conversation and 100% the behaviour was inappropriate and should be addressed through rehabilitative programs and potentially punishments too. In the online world it's so easy to get caught up and say things you wouldn't dream of in reality, it feels messy. My person had many many conversations on the kink and BDSM forum. Many of the things by their nature were not even possible and some medically not even possible for him. He had one conversation, no images, no searches etc. But reading what I did of the transcript, it would be impossible for the police to decipher whether it was role play or whether there was intent.

Unfortunately my person received a 40 month sentence and life time SHPO and SOR. He served 20 and had been released now for 10 months. Little, if no, rehabilitative programs offered in or out of prison.

His sentence seems to he at the top end from what I've seen of others. Much of it will depend on the detail of the conversation - Age of child, the level of sexual abuse intended and whether there were arrangements to meet.

SAL

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December 2021

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Posted Mon October 28, 2024 9:20amReport post

Trying to be brave.

I would take anything the police say with caution. My partner honestly thought nothing would come of it, his thoughts were: "I haven't actually done anything after all, surely I couldn't be charged just because I'd had a conversation online"

We weren't together when he recieved The Knock and I only found out about it when he was charged. Police were quite friendly, just said carry on as normal, so he did and oh how I wish he'd realised the seriousness. He's an intelligent man, but also autistic and took it at face value.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Edited Mon October 28, 2024 9:20am

Eye of storm

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May 2024

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Posted Fri November 1, 2024 8:18amReport post

SAL I agree with everything you've said. My OH since his arrest has been diagnosed with ADHD and subthreshold autism - he experienced neglect and inappropriate sexual behaviour with family members in his childhood. It really is a grey area and there is absolutely no exscuse but I believe all our OHs are battling with disorders, thoughts, feelings and behaviours that in the perceived anonymity of the online world lay themselves wide open to these offences.xx